Without something to back it up, this is just hot air.turk wrote: I hear about wind farms and it's mostly bad news.
From Wikipedia ~ you can go back and look at the citations:
"At the end of 2009, wind power in China accounted for 25.1 gigawatts (GW) of electricity generating capacity,[33] and China has identified wind power as a key growth component of the country's economy.[34] With its large land mass and long coastline, China has exceptional wind resources.[35] Researchers from Harvard and Tsinghua University have found that China could meet all of their electricity demands from wind power through 2030.[36]
By the end of 2008, at least 15 Chinese companies were commercially producing wind turbines and several dozen more were producing components.[37] Turbine sizes of 1.5 MW to 3 MW became common. Leading wind power companies in China were Goldwind, Dongfang Electric, and Sinovel[38] along with most major foreign wind turbine manufacturers.[39] China also increased production of small-scale wind turbines to about 80,000 turbines (80 MW) in 2008. Through all these developments, the Chinese wind industry appeared unaffected by the global financial crisis, according to industry observers.[38]
In 2009, China became the third largest wind energy provider worldwide (behind USA and Germany), with the installed wind power capacity reaching 20 GW at the end of 2009. According to the Global Wind Energy Council, the development of wind energy in China, in terms of scale and rhythm, is absolutely unparalleled in the world. The National People's Congress permanent committee passed a law that requires the Chinese energy companies to purchase all the electricity produced by the renewable energy sector.[40]"
But I'm sure you've done a good deal more study than the various Chinese Ph.Ds, experts, think-tanks and so on...
I'm not saying that wind power is awesome compared to oil in dollars to megawatts, but it's a hell of a lot cheaper to not poison the planet. Or perhaps you think cleaning up oil spills (Exxon Valdez, Gulf Oil Spill)for a few million/billion is preferred to NOT spending that money?
Turk, it's incredibly dispiriting to hear you say things that:
1. Aren't true
2. You don't fact check
I don't mind arguing, or differing opinions ~ I prefer it. But there has to be some standard for discussion. If we just say whatever we think, regardless of proof, evidence or relevance, that's not a discussion; it's a shouting match. Most of what I see you doing here is shouting down others with your views. Can you please take the time to substantiate your claims, so we can have a real discussion about whether or not economic stimulus (or anything else) is working?
Best,
L.
L.
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