Itinerant Air-Cooled Greetings From Washington
- Bleyseng
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If he had a set of those ceramic lifters he could just install them worry free. Sorry, sold my set years ago....
Geoff
77 Sage Green Westy- CS 2.0L-160,000 miles
70 Ghia vert, black, stock 1600SP,- 139,000 miles,
76 914 2.1L-Nepal Orange- 160,000+ miles
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77 Sage Green Westy- CS 2.0L-160,000 miles
70 Ghia vert, black, stock 1600SP,- 139,000 miles,
76 914 2.1L-Nepal Orange- 160,000+ miles
http://bleysengaway.blogspot.com/
- Ronin10
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First I've ever heard of ceramic lifters. Were these a one-off thing?
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- Amskeptic
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I heard Jake Raby mention them when he was having so much difficulty with replacement lifters going bad. Bleyseng, how do ceramic lifters play with various camshaft hardnesses?
BobD - 78 Bus . . . 112,730 miles
Chloe - 70 bus . . . 217,593 miles
Naranja - 77 Westy . . . 142,970 miles
Pluck - 1973 Squareback . . . . . . 55,600 miles
Alexus - 91 Lexus LS400 . . . 96,675 miles
Chloe - 70 bus . . . 217,593 miles
Naranja - 77 Westy . . . 142,970 miles
Pluck - 1973 Squareback . . . . . . 55,600 miles
Alexus - 91 Lexus LS400 . . . 96,675 miles
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Yes, this is interesting.
- sgkent
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re ceramic lifters:
Postby SonnyJames » Thu Jan 28, 2010 1:39 pm
Dealt with one that exploded in a Jersey skiff....the carnage was unreal! the ceramic embedded into and destroyed everything. "sand grenade" is the perfect analogy.
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- tommu
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Most things that explode will cause a problem. Any experience of them in a T4 engine with stock spring pressure?
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the ceramic lifters were Schubeck brand back in the day, were $600+ for eight?
the valve seats & valves will time out before the fancy lifters ever fail, so, for the price,
what have you really bought ? Guess one would need a 'ceramic camshaft lobe' to make it to the next level. : (
the valve seats & valves will time out before the fancy lifters ever fail, so, for the price,
what have you really bought ? Guess one would need a 'ceramic camshaft lobe' to make it to the next level. : (
- Bleyseng
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They worked fine with stock cams resulting in zero wear. I paid $400 for a set of 8 for a planned Autocross motor that never happened. Jake called me one day to talk me into selling them to a 914 racer for his engine Jake was building. They were super light and great for rpms in the 7000-8000 range
Geoff
77 Sage Green Westy- CS 2.0L-160,000 miles
70 Ghia vert, black, stock 1600SP,- 139,000 miles,
76 914 2.1L-Nepal Orange- 160,000+ miles
http://bleysengaway.blogspot.com/
77 Sage Green Westy- CS 2.0L-160,000 miles
70 Ghia vert, black, stock 1600SP,- 139,000 miles,
76 914 2.1L-Nepal Orange- 160,000+ miles
http://bleysengaway.blogspot.com/
- Amskeptic
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Bleyseng wrote: ↑Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:54 pmThey worked fine with stock cams resulting in zero wear. I paid $400 for a set of 8 for a planned Autocross motor that never happened. Jake called me one day to talk me into selling them to a 914 racer for his engine Jake was building. They were super light and great for rpms in the 7000-8000 range
Do we have a true long-term test?
Colin
BobD - 78 Bus . . . 112,730 miles
Chloe - 70 bus . . . 217,593 miles
Naranja - 77 Westy . . . 142,970 miles
Pluck - 1973 Squareback . . . . . . 55,600 miles
Alexus - 91 Lexus LS400 . . . 96,675 miles
Chloe - 70 bus . . . 217,593 miles
Naranja - 77 Westy . . . 142,970 miles
Pluck - 1973 Squareback . . . . . . 55,600 miles
Alexus - 91 Lexus LS400 . . . 96,675 miles
- Bleyseng
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Last I heard guys have been running them for 10 years without problems but I don't know definitely with scientific testing. The way I understand it that the two different materials don't wear due to the oil film sticking to the ceramic lifter surface. They were super light so reduced the valvetrain weight to allow greater rpms without going to super HD valve springs to keep the lifters following the cam (valve float). I remember they stopped making them as the ceramic material became " Strategic" after 911. I was going to build a engine using them along with Nikasil cylinders for a lifetime engine.
Geoff
77 Sage Green Westy- CS 2.0L-160,000 miles
70 Ghia vert, black, stock 1600SP,- 139,000 miles,
76 914 2.1L-Nepal Orange- 160,000+ miles
http://bleysengaway.blogspot.com/
77 Sage Green Westy- CS 2.0L-160,000 miles
70 Ghia vert, black, stock 1600SP,- 139,000 miles,
76 914 2.1L-Nepal Orange- 160,000+ miles
http://bleysengaway.blogspot.com/