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Re: Another Engine Build thread stock type 1 dp

Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:06 pm
by vdubyah73
find an autostick starter.

Re: Another Engine Build thread stock type 1 dp

Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 2:48 pm
by ruckman101
An autostick starter? No bushing?

Well transaxle by the woodstove, bushing in the freezer essentially did nothing to help. Noticed the newer bushing is shorter, too.

The old bushing was extracted by threading a tap into it, then with a punch on the tap, hammered out. And yes, it came out with relative ease.


neal

Re: Another Engine Build thread stock type 1 dp

Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 9:43 pm
by Amskeptic
ruckman101 wrote:An autostick starter? No bushing?

Well transaxle by the woodstove, bushing in the freezer essentially did nothing to help. Noticed the newer bushing is shorter, too.

The old bushing was extracted by threading a tap into it, then with a punch on the tap, hammered out. And yes, it came out with relative ease.


neal
Where did the new bushing come from?
Colin

Re: Another Engine Build thread stock type 1 dp

Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 9:50 am
by ruckman101
Autosport International in Vancouver. http://www.autosportintl.net/. They haven't impressed me greatly to date.


neal

Re: Another Engine Build thread stock type 1 dp

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 7:54 am
by bajaman72
There are two different bushings. One is shorter and wider (6V Trans I think) and the other is narrower and longer.An AutoStick starter eliminates the bushing. I had to put one on my baja due to the bushing hole being wallowed out and not holding the bushing.

Re: Another Engine Build thread stock type 1 dp

Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 10:31 am
by ruckman101
Ahh. I must have the six volt version.


thanks,
neal

Re: Another Engine Build thread stock type 1 dp

Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 1:31 pm
by ruckman101
I know this seems a silly question, but do you lube bushings? My instinct says yes, but....


neal

Re: Another Engine Build thread stock type 1 dp

Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 1:47 pm
by DjEep
Yup. A little grease or thick oil is fine.

Re: Another Engine Build thread stock type 1 dp

Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 2:08 pm
by ruckman101
Thanks. Any tips on extracting the old bushing for the arm? I used a thread cutter die just undersized to extract the starter bushing, but have no die big enough for this one, and it's in a hole, so no pushing from behind.


neal

Re: Another Engine Build thread stock type 1 dp

Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 2:40 pm
by ruckman101
Pampered transaxle.

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Old bushing.

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New bushing.

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Curious pits in the old bushing not in the new one.

Sometimes I figure I might be better off just leaving it alone.



neal

Re: Another Engine Build thread stock type 1 dp

Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 3:54 pm
by Amskeptic
ruckman101 wrote: Curious pits in the old bushing not in the new one.
Those are beautiful lubrication traps.
Colin

Re: Another Engine Build thread stock type 1 dp

Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 4:05 pm
by ruckman101
Another koan. Sigh.
Think I'll stick with the old one. The fit isn't sloppy, and yes, lubrication traps.


Thanks,
neal

Re: Another Engine Build thread stock type 1 dp

Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 3:15 pm
by ruckman101
AAAARRRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHHH!

What have I done to the universe to deserve this?

So I had no idea you could run the large bushing at the arm end of the throw out bearing arm into the case TOO FAR! I figured the shoulder would snug up at the other end going into the case, BUT NO!!!! It's a good quarter inch too far for the tongues the bearing itself mounts to align properly on the guide tube. It was such a great, snug fit it took some effort to drive the large bushing in, and now I fear I'm going to brake bell housing again or something trying to back it out. It...is...not...budging...one...lousy...little...bit.


I'm going to cry. So close, now this.
neal

Re: Another Engine Build thread stock type 1 dp

Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 4:59 pm
by hambone
Try a little bit of heat and see if that helps. Hang in there.

Re: Another Engine Build thread stock type 1 dp

Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 6:38 pm
by ruckman101
More than one way to skin a cat, as they say.

That thing was in there. Here it is before it got installed.

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It wasn't coming out by hook or crook. Implement after implement was brought to bear on the task with nothing but a bent throw out bearing mounting fork. I finally pounded it all the way through to the wrong side, where, of course, the assembly was still hopelessly stuck.

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What to do, what to do. So I sanded down the outside until I was able to slide it back through and start over.

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Triumph!

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Whew. Just need to bolt down the starter and it's ready to go back into the car. What an ordeal.



Thanks everyone for your support during this, my most recent trial of tribulations.
I feel much better now.

neal