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Re: A New Heart For Miss Zora
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 9:16 pm
by misszora
Is breaking in the rings different than the initial 20 minute break in?
Re: A New Heart For Miss Zora
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 9:19 pm
by misszora
Ahhhh...just answered my own question by re-reading the Aircooled.net post.
Now that the "bearing break in" is done, you want to REALLY heat the engine up by driving it hard! This loads the rings and will break the pistons, cylinders, and rings in together. I have found that engines that are missing the flaps or thermostat assembly have a tough time seating the rings in, and the only cure for this (my experience) is to get the engine HOT (some of these engines "never" break in). Find a hill and drive full throttle up the thing a few times, in a gear that loads the engine down a bit. The loading and extra heat burns the glaze off the cylinders and allows everything to seat together well. I do not feel a longer "break in" period is needed (some say 10,000 miles) other than getting the rings seated, and this can be done in 500 miles.
Re: A New Heart For Miss Zora
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:30 pm
by misszora
Did the ring break-in. 1st by doing it Colin's way up and down Vancouver and then I took her to 42nd to drive up and down that hill. I'm sure the neighbors thought I was nuts.
Got the oil changed, too.
See you in Nehalem!!!
Re: A New Heart For Miss Zora
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 5:58 pm
by misszora
Took Miss Zora into the shop today just to make sure everything was OK and get the brakes done. holy s**t! I almost had an engine fire. That T over the top of the engine opened up and was spraying fuel on the engine. It was originally closed up with some orange gunk. I wrapped it up with fuel hose to keep it from dumping out but apparently didn't do that right. The battery wasn't properly grounded, I'm missing a part for the throttle body, all the vacuum lines were routed wrong and the points burned and closed. well, at least it made it into the shop!
I'm very grateful for that. well, I don't feel so accomplished now. I'll get the report tomorrow. I feel sick.
Re: A New Heart For Miss Zora
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 6:50 pm
by Amskeptic
misszora wrote:Took Miss Zora into the shop today
That T over the top of the engine opened up and was spraying fuel on the engine.
The battery wasn't properly grounded,
I'm missing a part for the throttle body,
all the vacuum lines were routed wrong
points burned and closed.
well, at least it made it into the shop!
Did you witness this fuel "spraying" from the tee?
How do you properly "ground" a battery?
What part was missing from the throttle body?
All the vacuum lines were routed wrong with John Shepski & friends help?
Was all of this pointed out to you, or was it a phone call from the WhiteKnightsRUs shop?
Fuel spraying from a vapor line tee?? Pshaw. Did you overfill the gas tank by a couple of gallons?
Colin
Re: A New Heart For Miss Zora
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:41 pm
by LiveonJG
Amskeptic wrote:Fuel spraying from a vapor line tee?? Pshaw. Did you overfill the gas tank by a couple of gallons?
Colin
My thoughts exactly, without the Pshaw, of course. That should be vapor only in that tee.
Re: A New Heart For Miss Zora
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:52 pm
by misszora
Thank you.
Yeah, it seems odd since it was running pretty good. I did not witness the fuel spray. I can't remember what part they were talking about because it made no sense to me - nothing seemed to be missing. I'll know more tomorrow and I will have the mechanic show me everything he's talking about.
Re: A New Heart For Miss Zora
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 11:57 pm
by Amskeptic
LiveonJG wrote:Amskeptic wrote:Fuel spraying from a vapor line tee?? Pshaw. Did you overfill the gas tank by a couple of gallons?
Colin
My thoughts exactly, without the Pshaw,
of course. That should be vapor only in that tee.
Oh dear, I hope I did not offend anyone.
I read it once, in The Road To Oz when the chicken Billina did not believe the Scarecrow. I had no idea she was swearing it up at him.
Colin
Re: A New Heart For Miss Zora
Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 12:28 am
by misszora
No offense. Rather, empowerment. I felt like I failure but now I'm going to do a little investigating.
Re: A New Heart For Miss Zora
Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 3:20 am
by Bleyseng
yes, sounds pretty strange to me...
Re: A New Heart For Miss Zora
Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 10:00 am
by misszora
The missing part on the throttle body is the throttle switch. Not sure how that would be missing. She won't idle without it?
Re: A New Heart For Miss Zora
Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 10:08 am
by misszora
And yes, full tank of gas, crappy T.
Re: A New Heart For Miss Zora
Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 10:44 am
by Gypsie
Isn't there a charcoal canister setup that keeps the tank vent lines in a negative pressure condition? This 'overfilled tank issue' would show up with a overfull tank of gas while sitting? (ie no vacuum, no negative pressure, drip drip drip?) Jes curious...
Properly grounded = bolt down zone with corrosion?
Throttle enrichment switch? only kicks in at WOT. Idle won't be affected. make sure if there are connections from the harness that are not hooked up that they aren't flopping around making random ground circuits (or worse wired closed.)
seems like either minor bugs to iron out or a shop wanting to cultivate some bid'ness.
Re: A New Heart For Miss Zora
Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 10:45 am
by Bleyseng
misszora wrote:The missing part on the throttle body is the throttle switch. Not sure how that would be missing. She won't idle without it?
You have the early 75 Ljet FI that uses the throttle switch? or is it just that there are a pair of wires sitting on the engine unused like on the later (76-79) setups.
Re: A New Heart For Miss Zora
Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 7:26 pm
by bajaman72
misszora wrote:No offense. Rather, empowerment. I felt like I failure but now I'm going to do a little investigating.
No failure in my book! You touched EVERY nut and bolt on and around that engine and it runs
