Was the 2004 election stolen?

hambone · Post by **hambone** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 11:25 am

Americans do exceedingly well at creating devices accurate to .00006 and beyond. Replace the word "votes" with $$$ and see how accurate they'd be.
Smoke n mirrors...I'd be scared to find out what really happens behind close doors, this crap we're fed as truth is laffable.
But people eat up crap like "Survivor" so maybe Orwell hit it right on the head, Proles and Party Members. Just change the enemy's name at will.

Post by **Sluggo** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 11:31 am

hambone wrote:maybe Orwell hit it right on the head, Proles and Party Members. Just change the enemy's name at will.

I think Orwell's vision was damn close. He just got the dates wrong.

I start my new job at the Ministry Of Information tomorrow. Wish me luck! I said it in an earlier thread. The Saudis have always been our allies and we didn't train Al Queida or arm Saddam. The Thought Police are watching!

vwlover77 · Post by **vwlover77** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 12:54 pm

Amskeptic wrote:Kathleen Harris and Jeb Bush promised George that Florida was his and made it so.

Point well taken.

Hippie · Post by **Hippie** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 3:28 pm

You guys still believe we have a 2 party system?
Clinton sold us out to the NAFTA people and The Peoples Republic of China, and now he plays golf (along with Jimmy Carter) with the the George Bush seniors.
We're screwed.

Rob

Post by **Amskeptic** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 6:23 pm

Hippie wrote: We're screwed.

No we're not.
After we have voted responsibly, met on the Mall in Washington and properly exercised our Right to Civil Disobedience, if things don't change. . . . then we're screwed. We just have to stay on the high road. That could be difficult if people on our side descend to the same shrill idiocy as . . . the others.
Colin

Hippie · Post by **Hippie** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 7:22 pm

You have a point.
And my history professor laments the lack of modern day Ben Franklins.
I said they are around, but denied media coverage.
I'm voting for Colin in '08.
Run Colin Run =D>

Rob

spiffy · Post by **spiffy** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 7:24 pm

Hippie wrote:You have a point.
And my history professor laments the lack of modern day Ben Franklins.
I said they are around, but denied media coverage.
I'm voting for Colin in '08.
Run Colin Run =D>

Rob

and the IAC bumper sticker fund raiser was born....

LiveonJG · Post by **LiveonJG** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 11:08 pm

Amskeptic wrote: We have got to stop being such willing and or dumb sheep.
Florida was a complete trainwreck of illegality from the get-go.
Kathleen Harris and Jeb Bush promised George that Florida was his and made it so.
Colin

How true, how true... the same can be said for Ohio and Ken Blackwell two years ago. Wonder who'll come to the plate for the repubs for the midterms?
-John

Post by **Amskeptic** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 11:07 am

Hippie wrote: Run Colin Run =D>

Won't either.
Quality of life issues.
Not allowed to wear shorts and tank top on hot days.
Can't play nicely with agenda pickled people.
Can't drive my own VW where I want.
Don't like big parties much.
But I'd be happy to participate in helping those who do want to run who have real deep social conscience and drive to serve.
Colin

CoPilot · Post by **CoPilot** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 12:01 pm

When you're the prez- you can pick the dress code. And as a federal employee myself, BRING IN THE FLIP FLOPS-Colin. And I'm sure you can get your VW pimped out by the secret service...she might just be a bit heavier, though. However, when speaking of quality of life...IAC Tour might get moved to Camp David, but on that note, at least you'd get to be on vacation every month as our current incumbent...

You have my vote, Colin.

DurocShark · Post by **DurocShark** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 12:03 pm

Heh. I was just informed of a job that pays quite a bit less than I'm making for essentially the same work...

But shorts & sandals for dress code, a game room with pool table video games, etc, and beer Fridays is awfully tempting...

steve74baywin · Post by **steve74baywin** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 5:59 am

DurocShark wrote:
Amskeptic wrote:No substantiation whatsoever.
This is how:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WMG34cv0zM

And

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JESZiLpBLE

Thanks for posting.. I just watched both of these, very good. I didn't realize they had gone that far in testing.... A few years ago I heard the report of an independant company being hired by a county to check out the program. The guy hired said they had a list of things to check for that should have been part of the program to prevent tampering, his finding where that the basic stuff he expected to see to prevent shit like this wasn't written in the program, he said it was as if it was made to be easy to tamper with.

Elwood · Post by **Elwood** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 11:02 pm

Just a little input for info. I've never missed a vote in my life - ya woopeedo - but to me - it is important- my parents - altho- Dem and Reb. in the late 50's - 60's Ike/DICK days

I first voted for JFK and was a firm beliver that our votes counted. Raised my children to believe the same ~ again~

Fast forward to NOW

Demanded a write in ballot at last election, we have had electonic for last four, they looked at me like I was not worthy of voting - screw them- little ole people- like myself. Did the deed and turned in my PAPER vote and -they did not give me my treasured sticker that I had voted -ugggg- None available- my dash on Elwood is missing that sticker

It was so wrong and those poll workers knew it. Next local election - new machines with a joke of a paper trail on the side and I asked for a receipt of my vote ????? No can do and again not voting I have voted sticker ! Im mad as hell and doing my best to see that this is changed. I belong to Move-On.org and urge you to join also. Our FREEDOM is at stake.

DurocShark · Post by **DurocShark** » Sat Sep 30, 2006 5:47 am

Move-On is doing a call out party tonight around the corner from my place.

I subscribe to both parties spam lists just to keep up with what's going on.

My personal beliefs are more Libertarian than anything, so I don't participate in either party's events.

Post by **Amskeptic** » Sat Sep 30, 2006 10:02 am

DurocShark wrote:I subscribe to both parties spam lists just to keep up with what's going on.

Smart move. That goes under Informed Voter heading.
I listen to Rush Limbaugh to keep up on straw man arguments.
Hateful hypocrite is he.
Colin

Itinerant Air-Cooled

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Was the 2004 election stolen?