It seems so. I was informed by my mother-in-law that if Obama is re-elected, "Our nation will be bankrupt and our children will be wearing swastikas on their foreheads". Since I can't fathom where the hell any of that comes from I couldn't agree more with RussellK's assessment.RussellK wrote:I'm sorry folks there is no crossing this abyss.
Paul Ryan For Vice-President
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FoxNewsdtrumbo wrote:It seems so. I was informed by my mother-in-law that if Obama is re-elected, "Our nation will be bankrupt and our children will be wearing swastikas on their foreheads". Since I can't fathom where the hell any of that comes from I couldn't agree more with RussellK's assessment.RussellK wrote:I'm sorry folks there is no crossing this abyss.
My 88 yr old dad has the same beliefs and he watches FoxNews believing it to be the only tv news station that "tells the real truth". We don't talk politics much as he can't really discuss facts as he just spouts crap like " Obama was born in Africa".
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I respect a differing opinion that has some basis in facts. In fact I welcome it. Tell me why Ryan's budget is good for the country with something to back it up. Offer an alternative to the AHA. I'm all ears. But talking to some people make me feel like it's the twilight zone and this has been happening a lot. These are people I like and used to respect but their reasoning is based on weirdness. I don't know how to react. Like when I was told Obama wants to turn us into a third world nation. I asked if they really thought thats what he wanted and they said yes. Not as an inadvertent result of his policies but as an objective. Huh?Bleyseng wrote:FoxNewsdtrumbo wrote:It seems so. I was informed by my mother-in-law that if Obama is re-elected, "Our nation will be bankrupt and our children will be wearing swastikas on their foreheads". Since I can't fathom where the hell any of that comes from I couldn't agree more with RussellK's assessment.RussellK wrote:I'm sorry folks there is no crossing this abyss.
My 88 yr old dad has the same beliefs and he watches FoxNews believing it to be the only tv news station that "tells the real truth". We don't talk politics much as he can't really discuss facts as he just spouts crap like " Obama was born in Africa".
As an aside, watching Ryan's speech last night and doing a slow boil I think my wife summed it up. "He's creepy"
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Last night, Paul Ryan lied to the American people. Some journalists and outlets covered Ryan's lies. But others failed to fact-check and didn't call Ryan out on his brazen lies. In this crucial election, news reporters have an obligation to educate the public about the facts regarding the major issues, and call out the candidates every time they lie. We urge the major news corporations—ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, FOX, and MSNBC—to live up to their obligations to report the truth.
Here is a list of five lies that Ryan told when he gave his speech at the Republican National Convention last night. Every single news outlet should report on these lies.
1. Lie: President Obama is the "greatest threat" to Medicare.
Truth: Obama didn't make any cuts to Medicare benefits; he made cuts to provider reimbursements, to improve cost efficiency and extend the fiscal security of Medicare by eight years. According to the Medicare actuary, "[Obama's] Affordable Care Act makes important changes to the Medicare program and substantially improves its financial outlook."
But Ryan actually does want to cut benefits. He proposed dismantling Medicare and replacing it with a voucher system, leaving millions of seniors to come up with more money to pay for care out of pocket.
2. Lie: President Obama didn't save a General Motors plant in Wisconsin.
Truth: First, Obama wasn't even in office when the GM plant closed. Second, Obama never made a promise to save it.
3. Lie: President Obama ignored recommendations of a bipartisan debt commission.
Truth: Paul Ryan actually sat on that commission. And he led Republicans in voting down the commission's own recommendation. So the commission never gave a report to Obama, because Ryan himself voted to kill the report before it could.
4. Lie: President Obama is responsible for the downgrading of the U.S. Credit Rating
Truth: House Republicans, including Paul Ryan, held the full faith and credit of the United States hostage to try to ransom it for trillions of dollars in cuts to social programs without increasing taxes on the wealthy one dime. Standard & Poors said specifically, "We have changed our assumption on [revenue] because the majority of Republicans in Congress continue to resist any measure that would raise revenues." That's why our nation's credit rating was downgraded.
5. Lie: Ryan wants to protect the "weak."
Truth: Ryan's biggest feat in his political career was proposing a budget with dramatic cuts to programs benefiting the poor. He'd cut Medicaid by one third, take away health care insurance from 30 million Americans, and cut Pell Grants for 1 million students. All so that he could give more tax breaks to the rich.
Last night, Paul Ryan lied to the American people. Some journalists and outlets covered Ryan's lies. But others failed to fact-check and didn't call Ryan out on his brazen lies. In this crucial election, news reporters have an obligation to educate the public about the facts regarding the major issues, and call out the candidates every time they lie. We urge the major news corporations—ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, FOX, and MSNBC—to live up to their obligations to report the truth.
Here is a list of five lies that Ryan told when he gave his speech at the Republican National Convention last night. Every single news outlet should report on these lies.
1. Lie: President Obama is the "greatest threat" to Medicare.
Truth: Obama didn't make any cuts to Medicare benefits; he made cuts to provider reimbursements, to improve cost efficiency and extend the fiscal security of Medicare by eight years. According to the Medicare actuary, "[Obama's] Affordable Care Act makes important changes to the Medicare program and substantially improves its financial outlook."
But Ryan actually does want to cut benefits. He proposed dismantling Medicare and replacing it with a voucher system, leaving millions of seniors to come up with more money to pay for care out of pocket.
2. Lie: President Obama didn't save a General Motors plant in Wisconsin.
Truth: First, Obama wasn't even in office when the GM plant closed. Second, Obama never made a promise to save it.
3. Lie: President Obama ignored recommendations of a bipartisan debt commission.
Truth: Paul Ryan actually sat on that commission. And he led Republicans in voting down the commission's own recommendation. So the commission never gave a report to Obama, because Ryan himself voted to kill the report before it could.
4. Lie: President Obama is responsible for the downgrading of the U.S. Credit Rating
Truth: House Republicans, including Paul Ryan, held the full faith and credit of the United States hostage to try to ransom it for trillions of dollars in cuts to social programs without increasing taxes on the wealthy one dime. Standard & Poors said specifically, "We have changed our assumption on [revenue] because the majority of Republicans in Congress continue to resist any measure that would raise revenues." That's why our nation's credit rating was downgraded.
5. Lie: Ryan wants to protect the "weak."
Truth: Ryan's biggest feat in his political career was proposing a budget with dramatic cuts to programs benefiting the poor. He'd cut Medicaid by one third, take away health care insurance from 30 million Americans, and cut Pell Grants for 1 million students. All so that he could give more tax breaks to the rich.
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Stephen Colbert fact checks Paul Ryan's speech. I love Colbert.
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/tv ... 4723.story
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/tv ... 4723.story
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To examine the chasm further,
My southern baptist father inlaw glues himself to faux news a few hours a day, patriot?
I myself dvr Jon Stewart and Colbert and try and keep up before the dvr fills up.
Not really a dedicated tv watcher, socialist.
And for clarification dvr is mostly populated with approved cartoons.
And I haven't even seen the latest cc take down mentioned in above la times article.
My southern baptist father inlaw glues himself to faux news a few hours a day, patriot?
I myself dvr Jon Stewart and Colbert and try and keep up before the dvr fills up.
Not really a dedicated tv watcher, socialist.
And for clarification dvr is mostly populated with approved cartoons.
And I haven't even seen the latest cc take down mentioned in above la times article.