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Re: 9/11 conspiracy theories, Do they hold any water?
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:48 pm
by ruckman101
The issue is bigger than a birth certificate.
http://news.yahoo.com/truth-truthers-170203309.html
Ted Rall wraps it up with a nice bow on top.
neal
Re: 9/11 conspiracy theories, Do they hold any water?
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:55 pm
by Amskeptic
hippiewannabe wrote:Seriously?
I dropped in to discuss the end-game in Libya and find this shit.
When you accuse The President of the United States of Treason and murder, the burden of proof is on you, and you offer none.
Your hate has made you stupid. Shame on you.
Hey hey hey, easy there ... I do not see anyone "accusing the President of treason". I see questions being asked, with no easy neat answers. I do not think that this discussion warrants the accusation of "stupid" or "shame on you".
Might I add, that there are no easy answers to the collapse of WTC7, and it might even be "stupid" to think that the currently accepted explanation holds true.
Howya doin' anyhow, Grandpa?
Colin
Re: 9/11 conspiracy theories, Do they hold any water?
Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 6:10 pm
by Spezialist
Amskeptic wrote:hippiewannabe wrote:Seriously?
I dropped in to discuss the end-game in Libya and find this shit.
When you accuse The President of the United States of Treason and murder, the burden of proof is on you, and you offer none.
Your hate has made you stupid. Shame on you.
Hey hey hey, easy there ... I do not see anyone "accusing the President of treason". I see questions being asked, with no easy neat answers. I do not think that this discussion warrants the accusation of "stupid" or "shame on you".
Might I add, that there are no easy answers to the collapse of WTC7, and it might even be "stupid" to think that the currently accepted explanation holds true.
Howya doin' anyhow, Grandpa?
Colin
He only lied to the people, media and congress, clearly different than treason.
Wasn't the reason for pulling out this year was because they found WMDs!
Re: 9/11 conspiracy theories, Do they hold any water?
Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 8:12 pm
by ruckman101
Spezialist wrote:Amskeptic wrote:hippiewannabe wrote:Seriously?
I dropped in to discuss the end-game in Libya and find this shit.
When you accuse The President of the United States of Treason and murder, the burden of proof is on you, and you offer none.
Your hate has made you stupid. Shame on you.
Hey hey hey, easy there ... I do not see anyone "accusing the President of treason". I see questions being asked, with no easy neat answers. I do not think that this discussion warrants the accusation of "stupid" or "shame on you".
Might I add, that there are no easy answers to the collapse of WTC7, and it might even be "stupid" to think that the currently accepted explanation holds true.
Howya doin' anyhow, Grandpa?
Colin
He only lied to the people, media and congress, clearly different than treason.
Wasn't the reason for pulling out this year was because they found WMDs!
Ya lost me. I admit, not all that difficult, but still....
neal
Re: 9/11 conspiracy theories, Do they hold any water?
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 6:34 am
by steve74baywin
Spezialist wrote:
Wasn't the reason for pulling out this year was because they found WMDs!
No no, they are leaving because they have fully installed WMD.
Re: 9/11 conspiracy theories, Do they hold any water?
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 8:16 pm
by Spezialist
Hey, they figured out what brought down WTC7, I saw it on Wikipedia, it must be true.
Re: 9/11 conspiracy theories, Do they hold any water?
Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2017 11:49 pm
by Spezialist
https://youtu.be/pWG89zJrRH4
Not a conspiracy and she is cited by 2 other scientists
Dr Judy Wood and Dustification of Building materials
Re: 9/11 conspiracy theories, Do they hold any water?
Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2017 12:26 am
by asiab3
Two other scientists? So, approximately zero percent of the scientific community? We need more.
Robbie
Re: 9/11 conspiracy theories, Do they hold any water?
Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:07 am
by MonoCone
Don't feed the troll. Ignore is your friend.
Re: 9/11 conspiracy theories, Do they hold any water?
Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2017 2:13 pm
by Amskeptic
Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth
The “Space Beam” theory is completely absurd and is a hoax to discredit the entire truth movement. I have gone through Dr Judy Woods' presentation point by point, only to realize that it's very manipulating, deceiving and lacks any scientific evidence.
While Wood and AE911truth agree that the official story of an “inevitable” collapse by gravity alone is impossible because it conflicts with laws of physics, we completely differ on the mechanism of the destruction. Crucially, once there is proof and consensus that the official story violates elementary laws of physics, our major scientific task has been accomplished. The remaining task is the political challenge of mobilizing support for a legitimate investigation.
Jonathan Cole, P.E., Richard Gage, AIA, and Gregg Roberts
Re: 9/11 conspiracy theories, Do they hold any water?
Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2017 4:51 pm
by Jivermo
9/11 conspiracy? Hell, I'm still back on the grassy knoll.
Re: 9/11 conspiracy theories, Do they hold any water?
Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2017 3:34 pm
by tommu
There is a conspiracy to deny me a decent internet connection. Of that I am sure.
Re: 9/11 conspiracy theories, Do they hold any water?
Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:05 am
by Spezialist
No conclusions are made in that video, I've not heard of her conclusions.
What I understand is she is a former forensics teacher and had some serious coping issues initially (which I can be human enough to understand)
I posted the video because I watched it, I haven't given the event much thought over the years. I do remember it was for many to hard to talk about.
I don't have a stake in who dunnit or how. The conversation can stop at any time, pretty average.
Re: 9/11 conspiracy theories, Do they hold any water?
Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:52 am
by Amskeptic
Jivermo wrote:9/11 conspiracy? Hell, I'm still back on the grassy knoll.
If ever there should be a conflict between my own perceptions and an "official truth", I shall stay firmly on the side of my perceptions.
As of right now, there is no way I can bridge my understanding of:
Twin Towers
a) steel building construction with a central "tube" of vertical girders around a total of nine elevator shafts collapsing with exquisite symmetry from the inner to the outer
b) film of said buildings collapsing at free-fall speed (you can see the north tower antennae drop first!)
Building 7
a) collapsing like a pancake from debris strikes and simple contents fire after five hours
b) film of the center of the roof dropping first!
Oh well, how 'bout that USC game, huh?
Colin
Re: 9/11 conspiracy theories, Do they hold any water?
Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2017 11:04 am
by Spezialist
I'm glad I listened to Dr Judy Wood, the questions I had regarding the event were answered by her revelations. I'm okay that building pieces falling and turning to dust in plain sight. I'm okay with cars igniting into flames long after all the buildings fell.
I'm okay that firemens boots were catching fire. You know why? Because 14 men survived in the second floor stairwell when if physics are understood as we know them should have been crushed by 108 floors falling above them.
As tragic as that day was, there was miracles happening.