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Oh. George Soros and the new Breton Woods conference to decide the new world economy is just backpage ads, a trifling story with no merit. Soros made his fortune trading currencies, betting against them in hedge funds. He funds most of the left-wing media organizations, i.e. Media Matters, and MoveOn.org; the former a 5013C "non-profit" getting funded by our government, the CEO of which declared "war" on Fox News and "republicans". Okay, they're just small-time "grassroots" guys. Since they're your ideological idols, I guess they are not "everywhere", but in your head.
A man said to the universe, "Sir I exist! "However," replied the universe, "the fact has not created in me a sense of obligation."
"Let me be perfectly clear" "[...] And so that was just a example of a new senator, you know, making what is a political vote as opposed to doing what was important for the country." Barry Sotero
"Let me be perfectly clear" "[...] And so that was just a example of a new senator, you know, making what is a political vote as opposed to doing what was important for the country." Barry Sotero
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Soros isn't crafting legislation to hand off to legislators to enact. Absolutely no comparison. Soros doesn't drive the agenda of the grassroots organizations he contributes to.
Comparing Soros to ALEC is kind of like comparing some kid's sidewalk lemonade stand to Coca Cola.
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Comparing Soros to ALEC is kind of like comparing some kid's sidewalk lemonade stand to Coca Cola.
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Okay. Maybe. I don't know what any of these groups do. I do know they are kinda partisan at the very least, and not very partial in their endeavors. I watched your girl Maddow last night. I found her to be pretty rigidly partisan in her presentation, even if she had a discussion with Michael Steele (name?) a 'pub who blew her outta the water in the talk. She could only resort to the basest kinda observations. while he was more nuanced and humorous.
A man said to the universe, "Sir I exist! "However," replied the universe, "the fact has not created in me a sense of obligation."
"Let me be perfectly clear" "[...] And so that was just a example of a new senator, you know, making what is a political vote as opposed to doing what was important for the country." Barry Sotero
"Let me be perfectly clear" "[...] And so that was just a example of a new senator, you know, making what is a political vote as opposed to doing what was important for the country." Barry Sotero
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Steele is a cartoon.
But we veer from the topic.
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But we veer from the topic.
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Maybe yer right. I never watched this before, or saw him before, but I'll tell you honestly he made her look like the ideologue on the episode I saw. It was hands down. I think even she had to admit it. But that may be a fluke.
A man said to the universe, "Sir I exist! "However," replied the universe, "the fact has not created in me a sense of obligation."
"Let me be perfectly clear" "[...] And so that was just a example of a new senator, you know, making what is a political vote as opposed to doing what was important for the country." Barry Sotero
"Let me be perfectly clear" "[...] And so that was just a example of a new senator, you know, making what is a political vote as opposed to doing what was important for the country." Barry Sotero
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Yet still you feel compelled to comment. Why am I not surprised.turk wrote:Okay. Maybe. I don't know what any of these groups do. ....
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But you know. They all drive agendas. That is pretty obvious. Soros contributes to politically partisan groups. But they have no agenda? I still get their emails. Not as much as before. I went to some of their protests in 2007 and got on their mailing lists. I'm talking about MoveOn.org, and some others.
A man said to the universe, "Sir I exist! "However," replied the universe, "the fact has not created in me a sense of obligation."
"Let me be perfectly clear" "[...] And so that was just a example of a new senator, you know, making what is a political vote as opposed to doing what was important for the country." Barry Sotero
"Let me be perfectly clear" "[...] And so that was just a example of a new senator, you know, making what is a political vote as opposed to doing what was important for the country." Barry Sotero
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Yeah, political organizations tend to do that, endorse their agendas.
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So we shouldn't comment on it then.
A man said to the universe, "Sir I exist! "However," replied the universe, "the fact has not created in me a sense of obligation."
"Let me be perfectly clear" "[...] And so that was just a example of a new senator, you know, making what is a political vote as opposed to doing what was important for the country." Barry Sotero
"Let me be perfectly clear" "[...] And so that was just a example of a new senator, you know, making what is a political vote as opposed to doing what was important for the country." Barry Sotero
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Personally I try not to comment on things I have no or only a passing knowledge of.
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Okay, the organization you bring up is concerned with legislation. They draft proposals and hand these off to parties who may be interested in getting these passed. The other side has its organizations pushing its agenda. I am not a member of either. They are what they are. Soros funds "grass-roots" political groups. They have their agenda. The one you bring up creates proposals and gives those to its representatives. They both have agendas. I think we can comment on this.
A man said to the universe, "Sir I exist! "However," replied the universe, "the fact has not created in me a sense of obligation."
"Let me be perfectly clear" "[...] And so that was just a example of a new senator, you know, making what is a political vote as opposed to doing what was important for the country." Barry Sotero
"Let me be perfectly clear" "[...] And so that was just a example of a new senator, you know, making what is a political vote as opposed to doing what was important for the country." Barry Sotero
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As a side note to the Wisconsin protests:
"Today, the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reveals that Walker is using state funds to pay more than $81,500 a year to the 26-year-old son of a major campaign donor with no college degree and two drunken-driving convictions.
Despite having almost no management experience, UW Madison college dropout Brian Deschane now oversees state environmental and regulatory issues and manages dozens of Commerce Department employees. After only two months on the job, Deschane has already received a 26 percent pay raise and a promotion." ~ Reddit
Yeah, bust those unions so we can hire cronies and family members at ungodly wages to do nothing, while making actual workers like teachers do without benefits or money.
Hooray for cronyism! Hooray for nepotism!
"Today, the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reveals that Walker is using state funds to pay more than $81,500 a year to the 26-year-old son of a major campaign donor with no college degree and two drunken-driving convictions.
Despite having almost no management experience, UW Madison college dropout Brian Deschane now oversees state environmental and regulatory issues and manages dozens of Commerce Department employees. After only two months on the job, Deschane has already received a 26 percent pay raise and a promotion." ~ Reddit
Yeah, bust those unions so we can hire cronies and family members at ungodly wages to do nothing, while making actual workers like teachers do without benefits or money.
Hooray for cronyism! Hooray for nepotism!
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Hooray for those who call it out!Lanval wrote:
Yeah, bust those unions so we can hire cronies and family members at ungodly wages to do nothing, while making actual workers like teachers do without benefits or money.
Hooray for cronyism! Hooray for nepotism!
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OK, then allow me to point this out as support for my point:Amskeptic wrote:Hooray for those who call it out!Lanval wrote:
Yeah, bust those unions so we can hire cronies and family members at ungodly wages to do nothing, while making actual workers like teachers do without benefits or money.
Hooray for cronyism! Hooray for nepotism!
Read this blog on Forbes
http://blogs.forbes.com/rickungar/2011/ ... wisconsin/
Basic thesis:
A Republican linked judge who won his last election by 99.5% appears to have lost his re-election to a more liberal candidate. This will, if it goes forward, swing the Wis. state Supreme court to 4-3 lib/dem majority.
The kicker is that the liberal candidate outspent the conservative candidate; the lib. candidate was backed by union money among other sources. The cons. candidate was backed by the Koch brothers.
The unions did exactly what they were supposed to do ~ give the little guy a 'big-money' voice to oppose the efforts of the wealthy elite.
Nice. Betting Walker is a one-and-done Gov. who becomes a pariah in the rep/tea party arenas.
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