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Re: 999

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 7:34 am
by RussellK
Are the current deductions/loopholes impeding startups? I keep hearing that the tax code is complex but is it? Four years ago I fired my CPA who had me convinced me how complex this thing was. I bought a software package for $99 and started doing it myself for both the business and personal returns. Could it be even simpler? Sure. And it's true I'm not GE but doesn't the same code apply to everyone?

Re: 999

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 8:35 am
by Hippie
What's stiffling startups, IMO, is the $1200 a month health insurance you suddenly have to pay yourself.

Re: 999

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 8:46 am
by RussellK
Hippie wrote:What's stiffling startups, IMO, is the $1200 a month health insurance you suddenly have to pay yourself.
Amen to that. Almost everyone I know that is in business for themselves has a spouse covering them on a group plan somewhere.

Re: 999

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:12 am
by yondermtn
Hippie wrote:What's stiffling startups, IMO, is the $1200 a month health insurance you suddenly have to pay yourself.

Agreed.

Re: 999

Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:51 am
by BumbleBus
Sylvester wrote:Never happen. If he gets elected president he will never get this off the ground, period.
Tinkerbell could be elected president on the promise of magical pixie dust flying for every man, woman and child in the US, but the people really pulling the strings ($$$) would just rip her wings off and tell her to play their status quo. POTUS has zero power to do anything except read from a teleprompter. Obama. Hope. Change. Promises. Bah. Whatevs prompter man talking head. I lost my last ounce of respect for him when he caved on the whole Monsanto alfalfa/soybean/roundup/GMO food thing with Tom Vilsack (who went to the same high school I did... what an embarrassment to that school). Anyway... I expect zero change in 2012 regardless of who is elected.

Tinkerbell 2012™ :sunny:

I feel so jaded right now... :blah5:

Re: 999

Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 5:32 am
by Hippie
BumbleBus wrote:... I expect zero change in 2012 regardless of who is elected.
Pretty much true.
We suffered Vilsack (the sac, or ball-sac, as I called him) as a do nothing govenor in Iowa.

Re: 999

Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 7:36 am
by BellePlaine
RussellK wrote:Are the current deductions/loopholes impeding startups?
I don't know, now that I think about it further maybe you're right.

I still think that the plan has great ideas. I think that it would encourage saving and investing over spending and borrowing. I like that for a change.

Re: 999

Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 8:21 am
by RussellK
Being cash poor impedes saving and encourages borrowing. I'd like to see more people saving, investing and living debt free too. How does the Cain plan address that.

Re: 999

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 2:18 am
by vdubyah73
RussellK wrote:Being cash poor impedes saving and encourages borrowing. I'd like to see more people saving, investing and living debt free too. How does the Cain plan address that.
add a 9% sales tax to everything and you will start to think twice before buying any big ticket items. you'll have to save up to pay for food. clothing, utilities, etc, etc....

Re: 999

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 4:54 am
by RussellK
vdubyah73 wrote:
RussellK wrote:Being cash poor impedes saving and encourages borrowing. I'd like to see more people saving, investing and living debt free too. How does the Cain plan address that.
add a 9% sales tax to everything and you will start to think twice before buying any big ticket items. you'll have to save up to pay for food. clothing, utilities, etc, etc....
Whenever they talk about a flat tax locally they say necessary items like food, medicine & clothing will be exempt and there is an income threshold that if a taxpayer falls below exempts them from sales tax. The middle class will take the real hit on this. Can you imagine the tax bill on a washer dryer purchase? Or a car?

Re: 999

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 3:20 pm
by Sylvester
Hey maybe they could tax on imported goods from China?

Re: 999

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 7:40 pm
by dingo
Sylvester wrote:Hey maybe they could tax on imported goods from China?
i dont think the Chinese would like that...they need our buying power to remain stable..after all, thats why they are bankrolling our crumbling empire.