Blue alt/voltage reg wire not getting power until I rev.
- Sluggo
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Blue alt/voltage reg wire not getting power until I rev.
Unusual issue. I use the blue wire coming from the voltage regulator as a switch for my fuel pump and auxiliary battery relays. I've noticed lately that the battery light stays on and the blue wire doesn't provide power to the relays until I rev the engine up to about 3000 RPM. I now have a new alternator, regulator and harness but the issue still persists.
1977 Bus with Sunroof - "Lucky '77"
2000cc Type IV w/Dual Weber 36s,
Aircooled.net SVDA w/Compufire,
Redline Weber Fuel Pump,
Holley Regulator,
Half Ass Brush & Roller Rustoleum Paint Job,
Incomplete Custom Interior,
Dual Batteries,
Crunched Slider Door.
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- Amskeptic
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Re: Blue alt/voltage reg wire not getting power until I rev.
That is classic blown diode behavior. Diodes can blow fast and silently. When you *first* replaced the alternator, did this behavior go away . . . then come back?Sluggo wrote:Unusual issue. I use the blue wire coming from the voltage regulator as a switch for my fuel pump and auxiliary battery relays. I've noticed lately that the battery light stays on and the blue wire doesn't provide power to the relays until I rev the engine up to about 3000 RPM. I now have a new alternator, regulator and harness but the issue still persists.
ColinSiteSeemsCreakyBalkySlow
BobD - 78 Bus . . . 112,730 miles
Chloe - 70 bus . . . 217,593 miles
Naranja - 77 Westy . . . 142,970 miles
Pluck - 1973 Squareback . . . . . . 55,600 miles
Alexus - 91 Lexus LS400 . . . 96,675 miles
Chloe - 70 bus . . . 217,593 miles
Naranja - 77 Westy . . . 142,970 miles
Pluck - 1973 Squareback . . . . . . 55,600 miles
Alexus - 91 Lexus LS400 . . . 96,675 miles
- Sluggo
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Re: Blue alt/voltage reg wire not getting power until I rev.
Behavior did not go away. I've used the tester several times at 2 different AutoZones and the diodes always passed.
Odd thing is my starter passes then fails then passes then fails. Starter draws between 65 and 89 amps. Different every time I check.
I should add (embarrassingly) that my tranny ground strap has been missing since I owned the bus. Never noticed. Replaced it a few weeks ago. Charging is much better now and a few gremlins went away but this blue wire issue still persists.
Odd thing is my starter passes then fails then passes then fails. Starter draws between 65 and 89 amps. Different every time I check.
I should add (embarrassingly) that my tranny ground strap has been missing since I owned the bus. Never noticed. Replaced it a few weeks ago. Charging is much better now and a few gremlins went away but this blue wire issue still persists.
1977 Bus with Sunroof - "Lucky '77"
2000cc Type IV w/Dual Weber 36s,
Aircooled.net SVDA w/Compufire,
Redline Weber Fuel Pump,
Holley Regulator,
Half Ass Brush & Roller Rustoleum Paint Job,
Incomplete Custom Interior,
Dual Batteries,
Crunched Slider Door.
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- RSorak 71Westy
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Re: Blue alt/voltage reg wire not getting power until I rev.
The diodes always pass on the main output post, there are seperate diodes under the post the blue wire coneects to and one of these ARE bad. If they tested the blue wire terminal like an output term they would see this.
Take care,
Rick
Stock 1600 w/dual Solex 34's and header. mildly ported heads and EMPI elephant's feet. SVDA W/pertronix. 73 Thing has been sold. BTW I am a pro wrench have been fixing cars for living for over 30 yrs.
Rick
Stock 1600 w/dual Solex 34's and header. mildly ported heads and EMPI elephant's feet. SVDA W/pertronix. 73 Thing has been sold. BTW I am a pro wrench have been fixing cars for living for over 30 yrs.
- Amskeptic
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Re: Blue alt/voltage reg wire not getting power until I rev.
. . . this man knows, Sluggo. He has been baptized by the fire.RSorak 71Westy wrote:The diodes always pass on the main output post, there are seperate diodes under the post the blue wire coneects to and one of these ARE bad. If they tested the blue wire terminal like an output term they would see this.
Colin
BobD - 78 Bus . . . 112,730 miles
Chloe - 70 bus . . . 217,593 miles
Naranja - 77 Westy . . . 142,970 miles
Pluck - 1973 Squareback . . . . . . 55,600 miles
Alexus - 91 Lexus LS400 . . . 96,675 miles
Chloe - 70 bus . . . 217,593 miles
Naranja - 77 Westy . . . 142,970 miles
Pluck - 1973 Squareback . . . . . . 55,600 miles
Alexus - 91 Lexus LS400 . . . 96,675 miles
- Sluggo
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Re: Blue alt/voltage reg wire not getting power until I rev.
Guess I'll look into a 70 amp alt since I'm pulling it out again. Thanks for the info. Is it okay to drive around like this for a while? Once I rev all is good and I get full charge.
1977 Bus with Sunroof - "Lucky '77"
2000cc Type IV w/Dual Weber 36s,
Aircooled.net SVDA w/Compufire,
Redline Weber Fuel Pump,
Holley Regulator,
Half Ass Brush & Roller Rustoleum Paint Job,
Incomplete Custom Interior,
Dual Batteries,
Crunched Slider Door.
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- Amskeptic
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Re: Blue alt/voltage reg wire not getting power until I rev.
Yes. I lived with blown diodes for years. Had to disconnect the (-) cable if the car sat for any time, because it was slowly bleeding to ground. Lousy charging ability, but I was always at 65-70 mph on the road, where it charged plenty enough.Sluggo wrote:Guess I'll look into a 70 amp alt since I'm pulling it out again. Thanks for the info. Is it okay to drive around like this for a while? Once I rev all is good and I get full charge.
Colin
BobD - 78 Bus . . . 112,730 miles
Chloe - 70 bus . . . 217,593 miles
Naranja - 77 Westy . . . 142,970 miles
Pluck - 1973 Squareback . . . . . . 55,600 miles
Alexus - 91 Lexus LS400 . . . 96,675 miles
Chloe - 70 bus . . . 217,593 miles
Naranja - 77 Westy . . . 142,970 miles
Pluck - 1973 Squareback . . . . . . 55,600 miles
Alexus - 91 Lexus LS400 . . . 96,675 miles
- RSorak 71Westy
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Re: Blue alt/voltage reg wire not getting power until I rev.
Is it okay to drive around like this for a while?
Absolutely the main output terminal is working fine. The blue wire terminal is just for the charge light. If you dont mind it glowing at you all the time your good to go.
Absolutely the main output terminal is working fine. The blue wire terminal is just for the charge light. If you dont mind it glowing at you all the time your good to go.
Take care,
Rick
Stock 1600 w/dual Solex 34's and header. mildly ported heads and EMPI elephant's feet. SVDA W/pertronix. 73 Thing has been sold. BTW I am a pro wrench have been fixing cars for living for over 30 yrs.
Rick
Stock 1600 w/dual Solex 34's and header. mildly ported heads and EMPI elephant's feet. SVDA W/pertronix. 73 Thing has been sold. BTW I am a pro wrench have been fixing cars for living for over 30 yrs.
- Sluggo
- Wishin' I was Fishin'
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Re: Blue alt/voltage reg wire not getting power until I rev.
Cool! Thanks!
1977 Bus with Sunroof - "Lucky '77"
2000cc Type IV w/Dual Weber 36s,
Aircooled.net SVDA w/Compufire,
Redline Weber Fuel Pump,
Holley Regulator,
Half Ass Brush & Roller Rustoleum Paint Job,
Incomplete Custom Interior,
Dual Batteries,
Crunched Slider Door.
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