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Post by hambone » Fri Jan 15, 2010 5:29 pm

When I was 10 my favorite Hotwheels was a white mid 70's 911. (Eva has it now). I'll bet that car is a blast to drive, and simple to maintain. Parts may be pricey?
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Post by Bleyseng » Sat Jan 16, 2010 9:24 am

Nice car but still lots to do to get it really road worthy. Front bushings look shot but and easy fix these days ($400).
Gonna have to repair around the battery tray area and repaint plus install a Optima gel battery so you don't have to do it again.

Those engines are really expensive to rebuild so have it checked out by a mechanic who knows em..parts are made of Unobtainium!! (See why the Earth was attacking the blue people in Avatar! They were looking for Unobtainium to make Porsche parts!!)
Those 68-69 912's are collector cars and going up in value quickly as not many are left in stock shape...Lots of em have been converted to type 4 power as its way cheaper...Just imagine a type4 130hp 2056cc with dual Webbers, a 911 Porsche fan setup.. WooHoo!!! Swap in some 73 1/2 and later struts and then you can install vented rotors and calipers off a 3.0L 911 and stop.
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Post by covelo » Sat Jan 16, 2010 12:07 pm

Thank you! If I got it I wouldn't really want to put a non-912 engine in it. I really like old cars to remain original even if it costs a bit more to keep it that way. Silly question, but how can you see those bushings are shot (I don't doubt you, but just wondering)?

I have joined a 912 forum and I am trying to arrange someone to join me on a test drive on Monday.
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Post by Bleyseng » Sun Jan 17, 2010 9:05 am

They look original which means like from 1968. Those rubber bushings turn rock hard after 20 yrs so the "fix" is to install either needle bearings ($500) or poly bronze bushings ($350) and the suspension suddenly works again. Meaning the ride is smooooth and comfortable unlike rock hard, jarring, slamming, when you go over a pothole.

Using the original 912 motor is great but lots of guys pull em to store and use a different engine to drive around if you are going to drive the car a lot. Parts just aren't available to rebuild them for a reasonable price. Dunno, but maybe Porsche will re introduce some of these parts.
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Post by hambone » Sun Jan 17, 2010 2:18 pm

Just throw a nice 1600 dual port in there. I'll bet it would do the job nicely.
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Post by Bleyseng » Mon Jan 18, 2010 9:11 am

50 vs 90HP! no way will a 1600 DP be as much fun...plus the 1600DP tops out at 4500rpms vs 6500 rpms.
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Post by covelo » Mon Jan 18, 2010 1:17 pm

Here's a fun video of the cars that subconsciously inspire me to get a 1960s Porsche. When I was growing up we would get passed by these on the freeway in Holland.
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Post by tristessa » Mon Jan 18, 2010 2:21 pm

hambone wrote:Just throw a nice 1600 dual port in there. I'll bet it would do the job nicely.
No way a VW 1600 will handle it very happily. Now, a 1915cc or 2110cc T1 with good ported heads and a pair of DRLA40 or 44 carbs .. that'd be more like it.

Assuming you keep the original Porsche engine very carefully preserved & stored in the garage and use the VW engine for romping around, they're a lot cheaper to rebuild.

Saw a nice '69 912 at the Labor Day Sacramento BOR some years ago for sale, came with a fresh 2007cc stroker VW engine and the original 1600cc engine in a crate needing a rebuild. $8500...
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Post by hambone » Mon Jan 18, 2010 3:43 pm

You keep forgetting how slow I am. Maybe not.
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Post by tristessa » Mon Jan 18, 2010 4:32 pm

If'n yer slow, whatchoo want with a Porsche?
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Post by Amskeptic » Mon Jan 18, 2010 5:37 pm

covelo wrote:Thank you! If I got it I wouldn't really want to put a non-912 engine in it. I really like old cars to remain original even if it costs a bit more to keep it that way. Silly question, but how can you see those bushings are shot (I don't doubt you, but just wondering)?

I have joined a 912 forum and I am trying to arrange someone to join me on a test drive on Monday.
Honestly, if you are not some yahoo maniac, you can make these Porsche engines last a long long time with careful maintenance, quck warm-ups, and sensible driving (which includes carefully applied high rpm occasionally).
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Post by covelo » Tue Jan 19, 2010 4:32 pm

Amskeptic wrote:
covelo wrote:Thank you! If I got it I wouldn't really want to put a non-912 engine in it. I really like old cars to remain original even if it costs a bit more to keep it that way. Silly question, but how can you see those bushings are shot (I don't doubt you, but just wondering)?

I have joined a 912 forum and I am trying to arrange someone to join me on a test drive on Monday.
Honestly, if you are not some yahoo maniac, you can make these Porsche engines last a long long time with careful maintenance, quck warm-ups, and sensible driving (which includes carefully applied high rpm occasionally).
Colin
How much more involved is regular maintenance? (That is, how different is it from maintaining my bus?)
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Post by covelo » Fri Jan 22, 2010 11:49 pm

I think the one in SLO may be gone. I was going to go tomorrow but the seller has someone looking at it in the morning. We'll see.

I found a fun Portland 912 video on Vimeo.

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Post by Bleyseng » Sat Jan 23, 2010 9:07 am

Sounds as loud as my 914! I see he rebuilt the front suspension too.... =D>
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70 Ghia vert, black, stock 1600SP,- 139,000 miles,
76 914 2.1L-Nepal Orange- 160,000+ miles
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