Itinerant Air-Cooled Greetings From Georgia

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Re: Itinerant Air-Cooled Greetings From Georgia

Post by wcfvw69 » Wed Oct 28, 2015 4:44 pm

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Ronin10 wrote:If the creaking old bones can handle the crawl into the upper bunk, I think you'd be able to maintain a suitable floor/cargo area configuration for your tag along items, tools, hygene, etc. Given your proclivity for star-bathing, you might also consider bringing along a hammock. I've done several solo camping trips like this and it's wonderful to sleep. A hammock and a bug net will only fill up a small, small space.

And truth be told, if you're going to sell this on, having some of the bugs shaken out through an itinerant circuit would up it's value among the fanbase/potential buyers.

I will stay this...it certainly sounds like it would be a vast improvement on mine, even with its known issues. If so, having done a circuit like that - even a partial - I'd gladly take it off your hands when you arrive to Seattle then fly you back to pick up Chloe or the BobD to complete the itinerary. Kind of splits up the itinerary a bit, but it's something to file in the back of your mind as a possibility. I guess I haven't figured out what to do with your tools and stuff in the little fantasy scenario of mine, but as I've been thinking for many months about selling Greta and trying to find another bus in better condition, this one struck a chord with me.
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Oh boy... they're already circling waiting to pounce!! :cherry:

There's a potential pay day for Colin after he meticulously goes thru this bus's systems and gets it running and performing like new, especially with those low miles. I'm quite certain that there would be a bidding war on it after he signs off that it is ready to roll/sell.


I'll also vote that I think you should consider doing next years itinerant tour with this Westfalia. It would be a nice break from your other two buses and provide you with more comfortable amenities each night.

I hope you start a new thread Colin as you start your process of bringing this bus back to life!
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Re: Re:Itinerant Air-Cooled Greetings From Georgia

Post by VWinVT » Wed Oct 28, 2015 5:07 pm

TrollFromDownBelow wrote:
Amskeptic wrote:
Absolutely worse storage capacity for Itinerary Inventory. You have no idea how densely packed my 7 passenger buses are with under seat storage and rear compartment. What am I supposed to do every time I want to fold out the z-bed, move the:
* 4 gallon bottles of water -
* box of 2 containers of Tide/Bleach + quarters bag
* laundry bag
* hand weights
* heavy auxiliary box of suspension tools
* painting supplies box
* auxiliary projects box comprising disassembled electric and spare Pierburg pump
* straight run of fresh air hose
every time?
Maybe I will like pop-top atrium residence. Then I have an open poptop to call forth the nefarious denizens of the night who pad right past Chloe unaware that I am nested down there on the floor.

I'll try a couple of nights, just to see. Maybe I can do the Portland contingent's favorite dripping ferns camp-out with them.
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let's see....
* 4 gallon bottles of water - no need - have the 5 gallon holding tank in the cabinet
* box of 2 containers of Tide/Bleach + quarters bag - inside kitchen cabinet
* laundry bag - inside closet
* hand weights - under z bed
* heavy auxiliary box of suspension tools - under z bed
* painting supplies box inside cabinet, or in cubbies
* auxiliary projects box comprising disassembled electric and spare Pierburg pump - under zbed
* straight run of fresh air hose - ?? ummm... Westies have these cool screened windows - will you need it?

Plus you have all the little cubbies in the back, and don't forget the overhead storage above the z-bed. My favorite storage spot, however, appears to be missing from yours or cut from '77 production; that is the stool that doubles as a storage container. I keep all my kitchen supplies in there along with a big pot.
I agree...And you will still have left over cabinet space. Plus the fridge to keep a beverage and some snacks.

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Re: Itinerant Air-Cooled Greetings From Georgia

Post by dingo » Wed Oct 28, 2015 7:31 pm

lets see some pics already....
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Re: Itinerant Air-Cooled Greetings From Georgia

Post by airkooledchris » Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:31 pm

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Congrats! My 76 Marigold Westfalia was the best bus I had ever owned, until someone smashed into me at an intersection back in 2004.

When that chrome yellow paint is all shined up - I think it's one of the best 1970's vehicle colors that VW made.


No need to worry about where to store all the stuff when you fold out the bed! The entire floor can be covered from front to back and you just pop the top and go to sleep. It's a little less subtle when trying to stealth camp though. :P

Can't wait to see more pictures of this beauty.
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Re: Itinerant Air-Cooled Greetings From Georgia

Post by Amskeptic » Sat Nov 14, 2015 6:56 am

airkooledchris wrote: Can't wait to see more pictures of this beauty.
Well, I am on my way back up to Georgia to deal with that bus, but I have a problem . . . low of 62* forecast here, and forecast of 35* and cloudy there. Gas tank! Must be removed! No garage! No whining!

Today, I shall repaint the heat exchangers on Chloe and take in my last warmth. Two weeks ago, I did the muffler in situe . . .

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Re: Re:Itinerant Air-Cooled Greetings From Georgia

Post by asiab3 » Mon Feb 06, 2017 12:52 am

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asiab3 wrote:Looks like they actually sent you enough chrome trim this time...

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Got a whole roll from England. Still hoping to fabricate a seal groove stretcher that allows me insert new trim without removing the seals on the side windows surrounded by that pretty original headliner. I will problablabidity have to remove the windshield to make a single piece trim once again.
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I think I've got it!

Last month on Brian's bug, we took out his el-cheapo rear window seal and replaced it with a deluxe trim package from Wolfsburg West. First step was getting the rubber on the glass, not inside out. (I thought that was embarrassing until I read about Naranja's pop-top…) After that, we inserted a SMALL nylon string into the trim groove, NOT the pinch-weld groove. By pulling outwards, perpendicular to the trim, on the cord WHILE pushing down on the trim, we were able to slip the trim right in. I see no reason why this wouldn't work in place on the BobD.

I'd gladly make a demonstration or attempt at it if:
A) anyone has a car needing deluxe trim in Southern California… Will replace in exchange for photo documentation!
B) I can find the deluxe trim and seal for mom's convertible rear glass
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C) anyone buys me a complete set of bus trim and seals from WW… :geek:

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Post by Bleyseng » Mon Feb 06, 2017 10:33 am

I did replace the windshield seal on my Ghia using a WW seal. I was hard to get the chrome trim in properly but once correctly seated installing the glass w/the seal went easy even all by myself.
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Re: Itinerant Air-Cooled Greetings From Georgia

Post by asiab3 » Mon Feb 06, 2017 10:58 am

Bleyseng wrote:I did replace the windshield seal on my Ghia using a WW seal. I was hard to get the chrome trim in properly but once correctly seated installing the glass w/the seal went easy even all by myself.
Geoff,

As of two-isn years ago, Colin was looking for a way to install the chrome trim without removing the window glass, as to not disturb the BobD's headliner. We know we can't press in the chrome in situ, but I think the rope trick combined with a smidgeon of lube could work.

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Post by Amskeptic » Mon Feb 06, 2017 11:03 am

asiab3 wrote: we inserted a SMALL nylon string into the trim groove,
Robbie
Before or after the window was installed?

I have the intallation tool. It is a smooth metal butterfly wing looking thing that you rotate in the groove to spread it, and you tap the plastic chrome in as you laboriously work your way around the perimeter.

Of course, the BobD is in Atlanta and I am in Naples, so there is no fooling around with it just yet.
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Post by Bleyseng » Mon Feb 06, 2017 8:27 pm

Sh*t that sounds like a fun afternoon with two guys cursing a lot.
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Post by asiab3 » Mon Feb 06, 2017 11:02 pm

Aye. It was a fun afternoon. And evening. And night. We actually had two bugs, one with a defroster grid, and one without. We wanted to trade glass, nothing more, but both had failing seals, so we added the chrome to both the new seals. Fingertip blood is a special kind of hurt.

Anyway, Colin, we did the chrome before installing the window, but the rope technique we used on the chrome should work without pulling the window, assuming you can get the old chrome out cleanly. Mom has given me the go-ahead to buy her a new rear window seal WITH chrome this time, to gussy the convertible back up to 1969 quality standards. I will attempt my test, take lots of clear photographs, and get back to you in less than a month, or before you get back to the BobD anyway.

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Post by Amskeptic » Tue Feb 07, 2017 3:08 pm

asiab3 wrote:Aye. It was a fun afternoon. And evening. And night. We actually had two bugs, one with a defroster grid, and one without. We wanted to trade glass, nothing more, but both had failing seals, so we added the chrome to both the new seals. Fingertip blood is a special kind of hurt.

Anyway, Colin, we did the chrome before installing the window, but the rope technique we used on the chrome should work without pulling the window, assuming you can get the old chrome out cleanly. Mom has given me the go-ahead to buy her a new rear window seal WITH chrome this time, to gussy the convertible back up to 1969 quality standards. I will attempt my test, take lots of clear photographs, and get back to you in less than a month, or before you get back to the BobD anyway.

Robbie
I just want to make sure are on the same page here. Post '72 plastic chrome has a simple straight christmas tree barb cross-section that you merely rip out of the groove.

1969 Beetle chrome is an aluminum strip with a semi-circular cross section that must be installed with the glass out.
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Chloe - 1970 bus . . . . . . . . . . . 206,787 miles
Naranja - 1977 Westfalia . . . . . 91 414 miles
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Re: Itinerant Air-Cooled Greetings From Georgia

Post by asiab3 » Tue Feb 07, 2017 10:21 pm

Amskeptic wrote:
asiab3 wrote:Aye. It was a fun afternoon. And evening. And night. We actually had two bugs, one with a defroster grid, and one without. We wanted to trade glass, nothing more, but both had failing seals, so we added the chrome to both the new seals. Fingertip blood is a special kind of hurt.

Anyway, Colin, we did the chrome before installing the window, but the rope technique we used on the chrome should work without pulling the window, assuming you can get the old chrome out cleanly. Mom has given me the go-ahead to buy her a new rear window seal WITH chrome this time, to gussy the convertible back up to 1969 quality standards. I will attempt my test, take lots of clear photographs, and get back to you in less than a month, or before you get back to the BobD anyway.

Robbie
I just want to make sure are on the same page here. Post '72 plastic chrome has a simple straight christmas tree barb cross-section that you merely rip out of the groove.

1969 Beetle chrome is an aluminum strip with a semi-circular cross section that must be installed with the glass out.
Colin
Aaaahhhhh… I have never seen the "christmas tree barb cross-section" you mentioned. Is this a bug/bus difference, or a late/early quality/chepo difference?

And would ripping out the old stuff damage the seal in any way? I've never even seen something that would resemble that description……
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Re: Itinerant Air-Cooled Greetings From Georgia

Post by Amskeptic » Wed Feb 08, 2017 9:15 am

asiab3 wrote:I have never seen the "christmas tree barb cross-section" you mentioned. Is this a bug/bus difference, or a late/early quality/chepo difference?

And would ripping out the old stuff damage the seal in any way? I've never even seen something that would resemble that description……
Robbie
You will see the cross section in one of the detail photographs. They over-represent the years that this chrome fits. It was introduced in 1973.

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BobD - 1978 Bus . . . . . . . . . . .111,130 miles
Chloe - 1970 bus . . . . . . . . . . . 206,787 miles
Naranja - 1977 Westfalia . . . . . 91 414 miles
Pluck - 1973 Squareback . . . . . 55,510 miles
Alexus - 1991 Lexus LS400 . . . 72,113 miles

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