The Oregon November Camp - Nov. 6-10 2014

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The Oregon November Camp - Nov. 6-10 2014

Post by hambone » Tue Oct 21, 2014 2:57 pm

I'm about to lose my marbles. I am trapped like an eager hen. Is everyone still busy?
Have a couple ideas in the stew-pot if anyone's interested.
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Re: The Oregon Absurd Camp - Nov. 6-9 2014

Post by Westy78 » Tue Oct 21, 2014 6:32 pm

That's the weekend after I get home from elk hunting but I think I can make it work. Where are you thinking of going?
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Re: The Oregon Absurd Camp - Nov. 6-9 2014

Post by Westy78 » Wed Oct 22, 2014 4:26 pm

Heard from a guy I work with that hwy224 is closed from slides caused by the rain and wildfire. Could still get up there but would have to go in from the 26 side.
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Re: The Oregon Absurd Camp - Nov. 6-9 2014

Post by hambone » Thu Oct 23, 2014 9:12 am

Yeah it's closed indefinitely...what a mess.
There's a place off 4614, think you can still get there. Or maybe eastide? The weather....
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Re: The Oregon Absurd Camp - Nov. 6-9 2014

Post by DjEep » Sun Oct 26, 2014 5:01 pm

Might try and make a crazy camp....
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Re: The Oregon Absurd Camp - Nov. 6-9 2014

Post by Westy78 » Sun Oct 26, 2014 5:06 pm

hambone wrote:Yeah it's closed indefinitely...what a mess.
There's a place off 4614, think you can still get there. Or maybe eastide? The weather....
My vote would be for eastside this time of year. Maybe Mark could get away for a weekend.
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Re: The Oregon Absurd Camp - Nov. 6-9 2014

Post by hambone » Fri Oct 31, 2014 12:50 pm

I was looking at the lower John Day on a map, lots of wild land but surrounded by cattle and farms....and apparently no road access, boat only. Most of north central Oregon is private property and off limits, from the Dalles all the way to Pendleton. Reminds me of Illinois, land you can't get to...
Same story with the lower Deschutes. A couple years ago after I quit that lousy job I spent hours driving around up there looking for camps...all KEEP OUT signs and no public access. Wound up at Little Badger, miles away.

I would love to spend some time in the desert, but it looks like you have to drive hours just to get in. Kind of like camping on the beach, camprounds or nuthin'. Or drive past Prineville etc, too far for a weekend.

I'll bet there's some nice areas by the lower White River, but it will take some research to find. I have been where a bridge crosses near Pine Grove but it is way too busy with traffic way out there in the middle of nowhere. Some place east of there mebbe, in the Wildlife Area.

There is always Bonney Crossing or somewhere along the Barlow Road, closer at least. I can't afford a long drive right now. Barlow Crossing even...but I'd sure like to sit in some sage.
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Re: The Oregon Absurd Camp - Nov. 6-9 2014

Post by hambone » Fri Oct 31, 2014 12:57 pm

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Re: The Oregon Absurd Camp - Nov. 6-9 2014

Post by hambone » Fri Oct 31, 2014 4:17 pm

Hey I found that the BLM has a little-advertised campground (free no less) not far from Arlington, "John Day Crossing Camp". Not far from the Dalles.
http://www.blm.gov/or/resources/recreat ... amping.php
It's where the Oregon Trail crossed, that would be very interesting to explore. Hmm I am curious now.
from elsewhere:
"BLM manages two interpretive sites located along the historic Oregon Trail. These are
the John Day Crossing on the west side of the mainstem John Day near McDonald
Crossing, and the Four Mile historic site on the east side of the mainstem near the
community of Ione. These sites contain wooden ramadas which house interpretive
displays depicting emigrant life on the Oregon Trail. John Day Crossing is owned by
Sherman County Historical Society, and currently managed by BLM. A small picnic site,
Rock Creek, is located near McDonald Crossing on the east side of the mainstem."

I think this is the place, nothing spectacular but right on the river:
https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=The+ ... v&t=m&z=10

found some pix, looks like a nice place:
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Re: The Oregon Desert Camp - Nov. 6-10 2014

Post by hambone » Fri Oct 31, 2014 6:02 pm

Man I can't shut up. A new state park! Cottonwood Canyon State Park. In the same general area:
http://www.oregonstateparks.org/index.c ... parkId=195
map:
http://cottonwoodcanyon.files.wordpress ... page_1.jpg

21 site primitive campground...looks pretty bleak on Google sat....like an abandoned airport. I like the BLM one better, more mysterious.
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Re: The Oregon Desert Camp - Nov. 6-10 2014

Post by Sluggo » Sat Nov 01, 2014 2:26 pm

I shall be there!!!!!!!!! :bounce:
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Re: The Oregon Desert Camp - Nov. 6-10 2014

Post by Sluggo » Sat Nov 01, 2014 2:32 pm

My vote is for John Day Crossing.
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Re: The Oregon Desert Camp - Nov. 6-10 2014

Post by hambone » Sat Nov 01, 2014 5:24 pm

Hey! Thanks for posting something.
Don was saying he might not be able to make it if it's that far. Would you guys be up for Plaza Lake or 2 Springs if the weather is OK? A lot closer to home...still very tentative, I'll talk to him this week. Maybe we could go to JD Country for the Solstice Camp. I do know that 4610 is now open again.
BTW Mark is out. I should be too, broke as hell what's new?
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Re: The Oregon November Camp - Nov. 6-10 2014

Post by hambone » Sun Nov 02, 2014 3:20 pm

Maybe too early to tell, but the forecast shows 10 deg. warmer on the John Day. Dry too, but that could change.
Hunker down, looks to be another wet week...

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Who was John Day?

Visitors often ask "Was there really a John Day?" Little is known about the man for whom a river, a dam and two towns (John Day and Dayville) were named. The following story is based on historical fact - some of it may be true.

John Day was a hunter from the backwoods of Virginia. He had been employed by Ramsay Crooks for several years when he arrived in Oregon, at about 40 years of age. He was described as six feet two inches tall, a handsome man with a manly countenance, straight as an Indian with an elastic step 'as if he trod on springs'. It was his boast that in his younger days nothing could hurt or daunt him, but he had lived too fast and injured his constitution by excesses. Still, he was strong of hand, bold of heart, a prime woodsman, and an almost unerring shot.

John Day was engaged by the Wilson Price Hunt or 'Overland Party' of the Pacific Fur Company (Astorians) as a hunter in the fall of 1810. They were to cross the Plains and Rocky Mountains during 1811, and arrive in Astoria during the winter or early spring of 1812. John Day's early excesses evidently incapacitated him for the extreme hardships of this journey. During December, 1811 he became ill, and his life was saved only because Ramsay Crooks remained behind with him at an Indian camp near Weiser, Idaho. The following spring, Crooks and Day made their way across the Blue Mountains to the Columbia River. They were attacked by Indians, robbed, and left naked near the mouth of the Mau Mau River, thirty miles east of The Dalles. After the attack the two men started back to the friendly Walla Walla country when they met Robert Stuart's party going to Astoria. The two men joined this party and reached Astoria in early May, 1812. The people started calling the Mau Mau River 'John Day River' because he was attacked there. Within a very few years, the maps changed the name to John Day, and then a valley, two cities, the fossil beds and a dam took on the name of the river. It is likely that John Day never actually visited the area which now uses his name so frequently.

On June 20, 1812, John Day was assigned to accompany Robert Stuart back across the plains to St, Louis with dispatches from Astoria to John Jacob Astor. During the night of July 2, 1812, while encamped near Wapato Island, John Day became 'deranged' and attempted suicide. He then ran away from the party and wandered through the woods until he died. (This is the first recorded death) Washington Irving, on pages 111-112 of Volume 2 of Astoria stated that at this point Day was sent back to Astoria, but 'his constitution' was completely broken by the hardship he had undergone and he died within a year. (This was his second recorded death)

After this reference by Irving, John Day receives no further mention in the writings of the Pacific Fur Company or the Northwest Company during their careers on the Columbia River. There is no proof of statements that he retired from his associates and died in a small hunter's cabin on the banks of a large creek that empties into the Columbia a few miles above Tongue Point. (This is his third recorded death)

John Day's name was not mentioned again until 1814 when a 'bridge' of ten canoes containing nearly eighty men left Astoria bound for Athaska Pass. The names of the entire party were listed by Alex Henry in his journal, including 'Passenger Joshua Day'. Since there was no such person among the Eighth Company in Astoria it was concluded that Joshua Day and John Day were one and the same. The next record of John Day is contained in the journal of Alex Ross, Hudson Bay Company Snake River country, 1823-24. It reads 'Went up the Headwaters of the river. This is the defile where in 1819 died John Day. ' Day's defile is a mountain valley which heads in the Salmon River Mountains in Central Idaho. (This is death number four and is considered by most to be the last and correct one)

He left a lawful Will and Testament which was brought back by Donald McKenzie. The will left all of John Day's ready cash to Miss Rachel MacKenzie, and all of his property to Donald McKenzie. The will was given to him by the King of Spain for services rendered. Even though history does not record it, John Day must have been an outstanding man. Wherever he went, a creek, valley or river was named after him.

Now a large dam on the Columbia River bears his name, and the 'John Day country' includes the four branches of the John Day River, with the main branch running through the City of John Day.
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Re: The Oregon November Camp - Nov. 6-10 2014

Post by Westy78 » Sun Nov 02, 2014 8:17 pm

Just got back into town. I'm game for wherever. Been way to long since I camped with you guys.
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