Ok. I plead ignorance here. How do you pull out the oil seal on a '77 two liter? I've looked at the idiot book, Bentley, and searched online and I haven't found just how to do it. I've tried prying it out with a screwdriver and I just catch the metal edge and snap, it slips. I'm worried about scratching something I shouldn't. Should I worry?
and then I can experience adjusting end play. another learning experience.
Joseph
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- dtrumbo
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Hi Joseph. Your seal probably looks like this.
So let's look at these photos so you can see what we're dealing with a little better.
The orange thingy is what you're trying to remove. It's just as "thick" on the inner side as it is on the visible outer side. Use the prying tool of your choice to remove it knowing that the existing seal will be destroyed. Your concern, as you already know, is to preserve the non-seal parts such as the crankcase and crankshaft. I used a brake adjusting "spoon" to gently pry mine out. If "spoon" isn't ringing a bell, here's what I'm talking about.
You can use the more-curved end to gently pry against the crankshaft face (the bit the flywheel attaches to with the five bolts) going around in a circle. The years of goo will have glued it nicely but it will come out with some gentle persuasion.
Others are welcome to dispute my method, but when it's time to install the new seal make sure EVERYTHING is eat-off-of-it clean and then apply a thin coat of Permatex Aviation Sealant to the OUTER circumference of the new seal (between the seal and the case) and then push it in. My 46mm socket and a gentle hammer worked well but using your hands to get it started and then very light taps with a hammer in a circular pattern works too. Did I use the word "gentle" enough?
Good luck!
So let's look at these photos so you can see what we're dealing with a little better.
The orange thingy is what you're trying to remove. It's just as "thick" on the inner side as it is on the visible outer side. Use the prying tool of your choice to remove it knowing that the existing seal will be destroyed. Your concern, as you already know, is to preserve the non-seal parts such as the crankcase and crankshaft. I used a brake adjusting "spoon" to gently pry mine out. If "spoon" isn't ringing a bell, here's what I'm talking about.
You can use the more-curved end to gently pry against the crankshaft face (the bit the flywheel attaches to with the five bolts) going around in a circle. The years of goo will have glued it nicely but it will come out with some gentle persuasion.
Others are welcome to dispute my method, but when it's time to install the new seal make sure EVERYTHING is eat-off-of-it clean and then apply a thin coat of Permatex Aviation Sealant to the OUTER circumference of the new seal (between the seal and the case) and then push it in. My 46mm socket and a gentle hammer worked well but using your hands to get it started and then very light taps with a hammer in a circular pattern works too. Did I use the word "gentle" enough?
Good luck!
- Dick
1970 Transporter. 2015cc, dual Weber IDF 40's
1978 Riviera Camper. Bone stock GE 2.0L F.I.
1979 Super Beetle convertible.
... as it turns out, it was the coil!
1970 Transporter. 2015cc, dual Weber IDF 40's
1978 Riviera Camper. Bone stock GE 2.0L F.I.
1979 Super Beetle convertible.
... as it turns out, it was the coil!
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Thanks Dick,
I was kind of vague as to just what part of the seal to pry on but with your instructions I was able to get it out. I understand that my next step is to clean everything and return the flywheel and torque it to 80lbs and check end play. After I get .003-.005 I then install the new seal and oil ring. Right order?
Thanks again.
Joseph
I was kind of vague as to just what part of the seal to pry on but with your instructions I was able to get it out. I understand that my next step is to clean everything and return the flywheel and torque it to 80lbs and check end play. After I get .003-.005 I then install the new seal and oil ring. Right order?
Thanks again.
Joseph
- dtrumbo
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Re: oil seal removal
Yup, and by oil ring do you mean o-ring that goes on the inside groove of the flywheel? It kinda has a graphite coating, very unique. Here's to no leaks!mentalQtip wrote:Right order?
Joseph
- Dick
1970 Transporter. 2015cc, dual Weber IDF 40's
1978 Riviera Camper. Bone stock GE 2.0L F.I.
1979 Super Beetle convertible.
... as it turns out, it was the coil!
1970 Transporter. 2015cc, dual Weber IDF 40's
1978 Riviera Camper. Bone stock GE 2.0L F.I.
1979 Super Beetle convertible.
... as it turns out, it was the coil!
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79 VW Bus
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That link doesn't work anymore, although I prefer the phrase, "that dog won't hunt."
Let us try this one.....
https://picasaweb.google.com/1012902281 ... 2201103922
Let us try this one.....
https://picasaweb.google.com/1012902281 ... 2201103922
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Re: oil seal removal
I found that both links worked, Randy . . .Randy in Maine wrote:That link doesn't work anymore, although I prefer the phrase, "that dog won't hunt."
Let us try this one.....
https://picasaweb.google.com/1012902281 ... 2201103922
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