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VW, Porsche power struggle

Posted: Tue May 12, 2015 8:41 pm
by dingo

Re: VW, Porsche power struggle

Posted: Thu May 21, 2015 5:44 am
by Amskeptic

Re: VW, Porsche power struggle

Posted: Thu May 21, 2015 8:40 am
by airkooledchris
Here's just one example of the kind of old thinking that will no longer fly. At the VW Group Night at the Geneva Motor Show at the beginning of June, all the company's units presented their cars in a former warehouse building. The music thumped, there was laser lighting and the managers of each unit drove their latest models onto the stage. Mathias Müller of Porsche arrived in a Cayman Gt4, which has 385 horsepower and can accelerate to a speed of 100 kilometers per hour (62 miles per hour) in four seconds; Rupert Stadler of Audi entered in an R3, which has 610 horsepower and can do the same in 3.2 seconds; Stephan Winkelmann of Laborghini, came in an Aventador Superveloce, which has 750 horsepower and can reach 100 kilometers per hour in 2.8 seconds. It was a classic example of boys with their toys -- who had the biggest, longest and strongest?

I hope that kind of thinking continues to fly. Those models don't make up much of their sales, but those models do keep the automotive passion alive throughout the company. They should never kill those top models or they'll just end up being another boring car company. The technology they come up with when making those monsters still makes their way down into the genes of the rest of their vehicles.

Re: VW, Porsche power struggle

Posted: Thu May 21, 2015 1:01 pm
by asiab3
airkooledchris wrote:. The technology they come up with when making those monsters still makes their way down into the genes of the rest of their vehicles.
Trickle-down horesepower?

:blackeye:
Robbie

Re: VW, Porsche power struggle

Posted: Mon May 25, 2015 5:34 am
by Amskeptic
asiab3 wrote:
airkooledchris wrote:. The technology they come up with when making those monsters still makes their way down into the genes of the rest of their vehicles.
Trickle-down horesepower?

:blackeye:
Robbie
Meanwhile, I have an evolving outlook on life through 44 net horsepower, time to dream of a world where we make stuff that is "just enough" to get you there, but it gets you there again and again and again and again.
Colin

Re: VW, Porsche power struggle

Posted: Tue May 26, 2015 2:01 pm
by Boxcar
Lada.
Jawa.
Skoda.

Re: VW, Porsche power struggle

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 4:45 am
by Amskeptic
Boxcar wrote:Lada.
Jawa.
Skoda.
Beetle
Dodge Dart slant-six . . .

Re: VW, Porsche power struggle

Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2015 6:47 am
by jcbrock
Amskeptic wrote: Dodge Dart slant-six . . .
Put a 225ci slant six on a dyno and did the hp and torque measurements back when I was a freshman mechanical engineering student. Can't remember the exact number, but it topped out in the 40's for hp. I remember expecting more. So yeah Colin, it fits your scenario of just getting you there again and again. There was a reason that motor was the test dummy for the freshman!

Re: VW, Porsche power struggle

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2015 6:58 pm
by Boxcar
Amskeptic wrote:
Boxcar wrote:Lada.
Jawa.
Skoda.
Beetle
Dodge Dart slant-six . . .
That was some fun phonetic play right there early in a June.