Who makes a decent early bay longblock?

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Who makes a decent early bay longblock?

Post by Hippie » Sun Apr 29, 2012 6:13 am

Maybe this is the wrong forum, but I been a bit pressed for time. Ain't gonna send off my case for machining and hope they get it right the first time. The lifter bores need sleeved as well as a bearing saddle align bore.
I need a 1600 single port long block and don't want to get "GEX'ed." New frow VW Mexico factory would be fine of they are still available....as long as it has the mustache bar mounting bosses on the rear for a Bus.
Anybody wanna link me up? Thanks.

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Post by Amskeptic » Sun Apr 29, 2012 8:41 am

Hippie wrote:Maybe this is the wrong forum, but I been a bit pressed for time. Ain't gonna send off my case for machining and hope they get it right the first time. The lifter bores need sleeved as well as a bearing saddle align bore.
I need a 1600 single port long block and don't want to get "GEX'ed." New frow VW Mexico factory would be fine of they are still available....as long as it has the mustache bar mounting bosses on the rear for a Bus.
Anybody wanna link me up? Thanks.

cheers,
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Looks like single ports are hard to come by. Might have to buy a long block and swap heads or go towards the darkness and get all dual-portycracky weaknew upper tins and manifold and crapass carburetor with a centrifugal +vacuum distributor.
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Post by dtrumbo » Sun Apr 29, 2012 9:09 am

I have no idea if this is what you need or any idea as to the manufacturer/quality. All it does is satisfy the requirements of "1600 single-port". I can't even tell from the photo if it actually has the bus mustache bar mounting bosses. It says it fits a '67 bus. Maybe worth further investigation.

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Post by SlowLane » Sun Apr 29, 2012 10:22 am

If it's just the case that you're concerned about, maybe a short block is all you need?

I note that AVP is still in business. Though I wouldn't buy another Vanagon engine from them, maybe their Type 1 engines are more carefully built.

Not sure, but I think I remember reading that Mid-America resells GEX engines.
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Post by sailorkh » Sun Apr 29, 2012 10:29 am

Adrian might be able to help you out.

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Post by sped372 » Sun Apr 29, 2012 12:06 pm

SlowLane wrote:If it's just the case that you're concerned about, maybe a short block is all you need?

I note that AVP is still in business. Though I wouldn't buy another Vanagon engine from them, maybe their Type 1 engines are more carefully built.

Not sure, but I think I remember reading that Mid-America resells GEX engines.
My previous 1600 longblock was purchased from Aircooled.net. They were reselling engines from AVP. They were reselling engines from JCS. Long story short, it was a piece of junk.

The current single port (longblock) came from Art at ACE (Air Cooled Engineering). It wasn't cheap but I've been happy so far.
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Post by SlowLane » Sun Apr 29, 2012 12:28 pm

sped372 wrote: My previous 1600 longblock was purchased from Aircooled.net. They were reselling engines from AVP. They were reselling engines from JCS. Long story short, it was a piece of junk.
Not at all surprised, given my own AVP experience. Just wanted to give them the benefit of the doubt.
sped372 wrote: The current single port (longblock) came from Art at ACE (Air Cooled Engineering). It wasn't cheap but I've been happy so far.
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Post by Hippie » Sun Apr 29, 2012 1:10 pm

Thanks fellas. I'm willing to pay for quality. I don't know who builds for MAM....maybe JCS still. There rebuild kits have been satisfactory, IMO, but I have no experience with their assembled engines. I do need heads, so a shortblock is off the table. I'll try calling ACE and offroadmotors.
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Post by vdubzen » Sun Apr 29, 2012 1:11 pm

if you just are really worried about boring a case, i recommend rimco. they have always done our club right.




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Post by vistacruzer » Sun Apr 29, 2012 2:04 pm

The scooter guy in vancouver wa. has shelfs of singe porp heads cheap. he may have cases
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Post by vistacruzer » Sun Apr 29, 2012 2:06 pm

also call AUTOSPORT in vancouver 12 month warrenty
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Post by vistacruzer » Sun Apr 29, 2012 4:16 pm

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Post by ruckman101 » Sun Apr 29, 2012 9:59 pm

http://www.averysaircooled.com/partsgui ... igbore.cfm

Mighty handsome cases. Haven't heard anything about them in terms of folks who have made the investment. And it is an investment. Not a long block, though.


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Post by vistacruzer » Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:23 am

Avery's race case he thinks they can support a 3000cc build.
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Post by hambone » Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:38 am

I could build you an engine! Hell many of us here could.
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