Hippie's Engine Rebuild
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Hippie's Engine Rebuild
I didn't know MOFOCO sucked until I did some homework. I guess I really sort of want to do the overhaul myself, but still undecided.
The plugs were never removed so far. It will be easier with the engine out. I'm still trying to find/make a place to put the engine in this new (to us) house--although it is disconnected except for two bolts and ready to pull onto the floor jack and then lower onto the rolling engine cart. I got a room in the basement but the floor is carpeted and also I need help lifting it from the tuck-under garage floor into there. (an 8 inch rise) Maybe put down some cardboard over the carpet? Either way I go, I need to strip off all the ancilliary stuff and clean it up.
Oh yeah, the main jet is a 127.
Can you help me figure out if the case is good or needs work? There ain't no ACVW machinists or align boring jigs here in Podunkchevyland. What does fretting look like?
The plugs were never removed so far. It will be easier with the engine out. I'm still trying to find/make a place to put the engine in this new (to us) house--although it is disconnected except for two bolts and ready to pull onto the floor jack and then lower onto the rolling engine cart. I got a room in the basement but the floor is carpeted and also I need help lifting it from the tuck-under garage floor into there. (an 8 inch rise) Maybe put down some cardboard over the carpet? Either way I go, I need to strip off all the ancilliary stuff and clean it up.
Oh yeah, the main jet is a 127.
Can you help me figure out if the case is good or needs work? There ain't no ACVW machinists or align boring jigs here in Podunkchevyland. What does fretting look like?
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Saddle mating surface right where main bearing bolt goes through will have discolored grey unlike the others, and it will have pimples and craters.Hippie wrote:What does fretting look like?
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Fretting? Fretting? It looks like this:Hippie wrote:What does fretting look like?
It can certainly prematurely wrinkle your brow.
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LOL!...Ah yes, neal. I've been doing a lot of that since my bus blew chunks...this on top of everyday-everthing else.
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Maybe this thread should be renamed "yet another engine rebuild thread"? But I'm still considering the longblock option...so maybe keep the name for now. I dunno.
Anyways, I got the motor out and stuck it in the furnace room. I got some plywood over a tarp becuase its carpeted. This new house is not rednecked down to my standards yet. I need more bare concrete that I can get all greasy.
Reason revisited: stinkin' sinking valve seat on exhaust number three. My oil pressure has been too low, worse and worse, and I know the wrong oil pump was put in by dumb old me at one time--which shaved the back off the pump with the cam gear. Lots of metal bits went though the bearings. I drive this bus pretty hard, and I'm not putting the engine back in until I tear it apart and see what I got left of it. Maybe rebuild, maybe a longblock from Chirco, but something like new is going back in there:
Anyways, I got the motor out and stuck it in the furnace room. I got some plywood over a tarp becuase its carpeted. This new house is not rednecked down to my standards yet. I need more bare concrete that I can get all greasy.
Reason revisited: stinkin' sinking valve seat on exhaust number three. My oil pressure has been too low, worse and worse, and I know the wrong oil pump was put in by dumb old me at one time--which shaved the back off the pump with the cam gear. Lots of metal bits went though the bearings. I drive this bus pretty hard, and I'm not putting the engine back in until I tear it apart and see what I got left of it. Maybe rebuild, maybe a longblock from Chirco, but something like new is going back in there:
- Hippie
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Oh yeah, see the hoses running out the bottom there, and heading left? That's the oil lines to and from the oil pump and to a remote oil filter mounted under the driver's side of the engine compartment. These are high pressure hydraulic lines.
So The Tom Wilson book says putting on an oil filter setup is one of the nicest things you can do for a T-1 engine. But should I keep it? The oil pump cover on this in/out style pump is aluminum instead of the original pump's steel. I wonder if the aluminum cover has been worn away by the spinning pumping gears and causes the low oil pressure. (Like 20-24 PSI at 70 mph, with 20W-50, on a mildly warm day)
I won't know untill I get it apart. Also, I have had filters bulge, and one blow out on very cold mornings. Getting to be a pain/
Should I keep the oil filter setup? Opinions please?
So The Tom Wilson book says putting on an oil filter setup is one of the nicest things you can do for a T-1 engine. But should I keep it? The oil pump cover on this in/out style pump is aluminum instead of the original pump's steel. I wonder if the aluminum cover has been worn away by the spinning pumping gears and causes the low oil pressure. (Like 20-24 PSI at 70 mph, with 20W-50, on a mildly warm day)
I won't know untill I get it apart. Also, I have had filters bulge, and one blow out on very cold mornings. Getting to be a pain/
Should I keep the oil filter setup? Opinions please?
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I don't run an external filter, never have. I can see their usefulness but I'm too stubborn.
That's nice lookin' engine, too bad it's dead.
A couple years ago you could still get German oil pumps for not too much $, Oeveedub RIP. Maybe Wolfsburg West or somebody.
Just tell yourself "this will be fun" and it will. Looks like a good clean place to work.
That's nice lookin' engine, too bad it's dead.
A couple years ago you could still get German oil pumps for not too much $, Oeveedub RIP. Maybe Wolfsburg West or somebody.
Just tell yourself "this will be fun" and it will. Looks like a good clean place to work.
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Or have you considered an OxyBoxer?
Wasserboxer case with type1 cylinders and heads. Quite popular with the go-fast crowd, it seems.
Wasserboxer case with type1 cylinders and heads. Quite popular with the go-fast crowd, it seems.
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the samba has business listings that are searchable by state. its in the community section. find some that are reasonably close to you and search their reputation. maybe even private message one of the respected members for suggestions on machine shops? isn't there a off road and dune culture in the mid west somewhere.
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- Hippie
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Interesting. How do they make those? I don't want water-cooled for me though. It doesn't sound right.SlowLane wrote:Or have you considered an OxyBoxer?
Wasserboxer case with type1 cylinders and heads. Quite popular with the go-fast crowd, it seems.
That's a good idea. I'll try to look for machine shops if I end up needing one.vdubyah73 wrote:the samba has business listings that are searchable by state. its in the community section. find some that are reasonably close to you and search their reputation. maybe even private message one of the respected members for suggestions on machine shops? isn't there a off road and dune culture in the mid west somewhere.
But no there's no off-road culture in Iowa that I know if. We don't have any significant public land where you can go.
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That'e the beauty of the idea. You cut the cylinder water jackets off of the wasser case, bore the cylinder spigots to accept type 1 cylinders, and use type 1 heads and valvegear. The advantage is that you start out with a skookum aluminum case that can stand up to pretty much any size engine you care to build.Hippie wrote:Interesting. How do they make those? I don't want water-cooled for me though. It doesn't sound right.SlowLane wrote:Or have you considered an OxyBoxer?
Wasserboxer case with type1 cylinders and heads. Quite popular with the go-fast crowd, it seems.
That's an oversimplification, of course. The link I posted is to the ShopTalkForums forum on Oxyboxers: there's a lot more information there.
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- Hippie
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Cool. I get it now.
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Gimmeee... I love snow with all of my heart.sped372 wrote: That made me laugh! I for one am not quite ready for the onset of winter yet.
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