When I speak as I do on this issue, I am challenging the law and it's worthiness. I think that ignorance of the law phrase only comes into play in a society that has made a whole bunch of laws above and beyond the protection of rights. It is also probably a phrase promoted by those rich elites that have written most of the laws. It is very easy to be ignorant of a law when laws are written as often as a bird shits.Lanval wrote: Usually, knowingly buying stuff that is not legal is illegal. Did Gibson know the wood was not legal to buy? If so, then they're definitely busted. If not, they're still busted, because in general: ignorance of the law is not proof against prosecution.
That there eliminates any discussion as to whether the law is just or valid. I do not think this thread was started so we could say "look, see, a law was broken, and if you break it, you will pay, good, great, jolly jolly". No, I think this thread was started to discuss if we think this is a good thing to be happening.Lanval wrote: If wood is a core component of your business, it is your job to ensure you're abiding by the rules. Plenty of other options, that aren't problematic. Gibson is probably going to take it in the pants on this, and rightly so.
Nah, not from a country that is breaking so many of Natures Laws.Lanval wrote: Know and follow the law of the people.
I like this better from Dr Martin Luther King
"There are just laws and there are unjust laws. I would agree with St. Augustine that an unjust law is no law at all... One who breaks an unjust law must do it openly, lovingly...I submit that an individual who breaks a law that conscience tells him is unjust, and willingly accepts the penalty by staying in jail to arouse the conscience of the community over its injustice, is in reality expressing the very highest respect for law."
I did no such thing. I did not assert that.Lanval wrote:
As an aside Steve, asserting that it's OK to break the laws of other countries, just because it's not against the law here? Not very respectful of the rights of other people...
Your comment would apply or be correct if Gibson guitars was in Africa, did the crime in Africa, and got arrested in Africa and I said "we are a sovereign nation, and shouldn't be forced to abide by another countries laws". But they are here in this country. It is a crime in Africa, let Africa arrest whomever broke the law of Africa while in Africa.