Robert Berglund wrote:And neal has way too much alcohol in himselfruckman101 wrote:Cheney has a little motor in him.
neal
Nope, just started my work shift.
neal
Ritter wrote:Yes I do give a shootin shit. For there to be law, we must all be equal in front of it. Further, our actions have stimulated more terrorism than our inactions.Robert Berglund wrote: Do you really give a shootin shit what the USA does to anyone whos bent on killing citizens.
Somehow, I knew you'd bring this up. There is a difference between how I might handle the situation and how I'd expect the government to handle the situation. You bet I'd act violently and decisively if my wife or daughter's lives were put in jeopardy and the asshat was in front of me. However, I would expect the government to protect said asshat from my actions and I would not expect the government to torture any information out of said asshat. Government should be in the business of enforcing law and keeping order, not breaking law and causing disorder. See the difference?Robert Berglund wrote: Lets say I know of a scum bag low life who is intent on harming your family...mollesting your daughter and abusing your wife and the only way I could tell when they were to going to do this was to soak their heads in water....would you really care how I got the information outa them if it would save the lives of your wife and child.
Robert, it's nice that you care enough for me and my family to torture that guy. There's not much I can do to stop you, but I think it would be the wrong way to go about it. Might be better to just turn him over to the authorities since he hasn't actually done anything yet.Robert Berglund wrote:Ritter.....I didnt ask you how you would expect the government to react I asked you a simple question.
Just answer the question as I proposed it to you .....If your wife and children were in danger ...........
Answer just the question as I asked it.
Thank you
I thought we were discussing the merits of torture and botox, not immigration. Where is this invasion you speak of?Robert Berglund wrote: You say the Government should be in the business of enforcing law and keeping order, not breaking law and causing disorder.
Does your quote stand true for all the illegals invading our Country without proper documentation or just select laws you see fit to obey.
I too think the Government should enforce the laws and keep order.
Are we supposed to accept this statement without question? Let's see a little attribution here, Mr. Berglund. In other words, prove that it's the truth, not something you read on the Internets or heard Dick Cheney say on Fox News.Robert Berglund wrote:Water boarding extracted information concerning the "bad guys" plan to flly a fully loaded airplane into an LA building.
Plan was thwarted because of water boarding.
Should the feds enforce the federal marijuana laws in Cali?ruckman101 wrote:Torturing is against the law. Our government already enforces what it likes, ignoring other laws, or just cutting the purse strings to the agencies that enforce the laws. Toothless tigers. But a locked down mind only sees what it wants to see, simplicity, black or white no shades of gray.
neal
Torturing is against the law...I never said it wasent now did I neal.ruckman101 wrote:Torturing is against the law. Our government already enforces what it likes, ignoring other laws, or just cutting the purse strings to the agencies that enforce the laws. Toothless tigers. But a locked down mind only sees what it wants to see, simplicity, black or white no shades of gray.
neal
glasseye wrote:Are we supposed to accept this statement without question? Let's see a little attribution here, Mr. Berglund. In other words, prove that it's the truth, not something you read on the Internets or heard Dick Cheney say on Fox News.Robert Berglund wrote:Water boarding extracted information concerning the "bad guys" plan to flly a fully loaded airplane into an LA building.
Plan was thwarted because of water boarding.
1) I read the NYT daily. I see no mention of torture saving Los Angeles from airborne terrorism. Please direct me.Robert Berglund wrote: My dear man..where have you been, time to take your head outa the engine compartment and come up for air.
Pick up a New York Times or The Post or at least some kind of news paper.