The Ron Paul Thread

upnorthman · Post by **upnorthman** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:57 am

It is a good vid and it does scare me more.....but it is good to see people trying to point this stuff out and how simple it is to see it!

Velokid1 · Post by **Velokid1** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:36 pm

Federal Decriminalization Bill Introduced -- Bill Would End Federal Authority to Arrest Adults for Pot Possession

April 17, 2008 - Washington, DC, USA

Washington, DC: US Congressman Barney Frank (D-MA) introduced legislation in Congress today to strip the federal government of its authority to arrest responsible adult cannabis consumers. The measure, H.R. 5843, known as an “Act to Remove Federal Penalties for Personal Use of Marijuana by Responsible Adults,” is the first federal decriminalization legislation introduced in 24 years.

“It's time for the politicians to catch up with the public on this [issue],” Frank said. "The notion that you lock people up for smoking marijuana is pretty silly."

Frank's pending bill, co-sponsored by presidential candidate Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX), seeks to eliminate all federal penalties prohibiting the personal use and possession of up to 100 grams (3 1/2 ounces) of marijuana. Under this measure, adults who consume cannabis would no longer face arrest, prison, or even the threat of a civil fine. The bill also eliminates all penalties for the not-for-profit transfers of up to one ounce of pot.

NORML Legal Counsel Keith Stroup, who worked closely with Frank's staff to draft this legislation, said, "If passed by Congress, this legislation would legalize the possession, use, and non-profit transfer of marijuana by adults for the first time since 1937." The bill incorporates the basic recommendations of the National Commission on Marijuana and Drug Abuse (also known as the Shafer Commission).

Currently, twelve states have enacted various versions of marijuana decriminalization, eliminating criminal penalties for minor pot violations. According to federal data, passage of these laws has not subsequently led to increased marijuana use.

“This newly introduced legislation seeks to bring the federal government into line with the over 100 million Americans who currently live in a state or municipality that has already decriminalized cannabis possession,” NORML Executive Director Allen St. Pierre said today. “This year, the masses in the U.S. celebrating 4/20 really have something to rejoice, and to now lobby for.”

Similar statewide legislation is pending in New Hampshire and Vermont. Additionally, Massachusetts voters will decide on a statewide decriminalization measure this November.

According to a nationwide CNN/Time Magazine poll, more than three-quarters of American adults favor decriminalizing marijuana.

For more information, please contact Keith Stroup, NORML Legal Counsel, at (202) 483-5500. Supporters can write their Representatives in favor of this bill at:
http://capwiz.com/norml2/issues/alert/? ... 01&type=CO

updated: Apr 18, 2008

chitwnvw · Post by **chitwnvw** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:28 pm

You guys are morphing the Ron Paul thread into another legalize pot thread!?!?

Velokid1 · Post by **Velokid1** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:42 pm

It's perfectly pertinent. And it's my thread.

Really though, to me and the people I know, this isn't a fun little pet issue. It's not about, hey let's party... give us our weed, dude. People suffer every day for no reason at all. NONE AT ALL. There is ZERO reason for adults who use cannabis to be considered criminals. Name one legitimate reason.

Of course, nobody can. So to say, 'aw c'mon, stop talking about it' is a little like telling a cancer activist to stop talking about the people afflicted with cancer.

chitwnvw · Post by **chitwnvw** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:13 pm

steve74baywin wrote:Good vid on the media lying about Ron Paul

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iW5kOB1pmg

Excellent tutorial on trends at google.com. That won me over.

chitwnvw · Post by **chitwnvw** » Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:15 pm

Velokid1 wrote:It's perfectly pertinent. And it's my thread.

Aww, yah. Forgot about that.

Carry on.

steve74baywin · Post by **steve74baywin** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:32 am

chitwnvw wrote:You guys are morphing the Ron Paul thread into another legalize pot thread!?!?

Never know what a few tokes will do....

To me it is about several things,,,One is how once again the masses were hoodwinked into believing something ridiculous and retarded. Two would be how parts of our government is the biggest criminal that needs to be locked up.
Smoking a herb that has been used for ages is something some need to go to jail over???? Talk about how peoples minds can be controlled. To arrest, fine and jail someone for that is like kidnapping...

chitwnvw · Post by **chitwnvw** » Tue Apr 29, 2008 5:54 pm

steve74baywin wrote: Smoking a herb that has been used for ages is something some need to go to jail over???? Talk about how peoples minds can be controlled. To arrest, fine and jail someone for that is like kidnapping...

What's your take on opiates? I mean, should I be allowed to use heroin or cocaine if I am not hurting anyone else? IIRC it was legal until the early part of this century and the world didn't end.

steve74baywin · Post by **steve74baywin** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 5:50 am

chitwnvw wrote:
steve74baywin wrote: Smoking a herb that has been used for ages is something some need to go to jail over???? Talk about how peoples minds can be controlled. To arrest, fine and jail someone for that is like kidnapping...
What's your take on opiates? I mean, should I be allowed to use heroin or cocaine if I am not hurting anyone else? IIRC it was legal until the early part of this century and the world didn't end.

Yes

RussellK · Post by **RussellK** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 6:46 am

steve74baywin wrote:
chitwnvw wrote:
steve74baywin wrote: Smoking a herb that has been used for ages is something some need to go to jail over???? Talk about how peoples minds can be controlled. To arrest, fine and jail someone for that is like kidnapping...
What's your take on opiates? I mean, should I be allowed to use heroin or cocaine if I am not hurting anyone else? IIRC it was legal until the early part of this century and the world didn't end.
Yes

If the government is interested in a malleable citizenry wouldn't a population addicted to an opiate be the perfect population?

steve74baywin · Post by **steve74baywin** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 6:52 am

RussellK wrote:
steve74baywin wrote:
chitwnvw wrote:
steve74baywin wrote: Smoking a herb that has been used for ages is something some need to go to jail over???? Talk about how peoples minds can be controlled. To arrest, fine and jail someone for that is like kidnapping...
What's your take on opiates? I mean, should I be allowed to use heroin or cocaine if I am not hurting anyone else? IIRC it was legal until the early part of this century and the world didn't end.
Yes
If the government is interested in a malleable citizenry wouldn't a population addicted to an opiate be the perfect population?

The problem with that would be this.... They need workers, or peasants of the kingdom.....They need people who will strive hard to further build their dreams....So No, a population on opiates wouldn't be good for them..
Secondly, the whole population wouldn't go on opiates just because they are legal....Just like not everyone would use cannabis, smoke cigarettes, or drink alcohol just because they can.....

Hey Russel bro,,,thanks for being up this early, and up for conversation.....
All those dam west coaster get on too late,,,,there oughta be a law..

Velokid1 · Post by **Velokid1** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 11:18 am

RP's new book is out today.

You can read selections from it here (click on "Search Inside this Book"):

http://www.amazon.com/Revolution-Manife ... 0446537519

Quadratrückseite · Post by **Quadratrückseite** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 12:21 pm

Velokid1 wrote:RP's new book is out today.

You can read selections from it here (click on "Search Inside this Book"):

http://www.amazon.com/Revolution-Manife ... 0446537519

Wow! I read the excerpt - powerful stuff. I'm going to go get the book today. I am voting next Tuesday in the NC Primary for Ron Paul - might be the only chance I get to vote for him. I'm assuming he's still technically on the ballot.

steve74baywin · Post by **steve74baywin** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 1:30 pm

Quadratrückseite wrote:
Velokid1 wrote:RP's new book is out today.

You can read selections from it here (click on "Search Inside this Book"):

http://www.amazon.com/Revolution-Manife ... 0446537519

Wow! I read the excerpt - powerful stuff. I'm going to go get the book today. I am voting next Tuesday in the NC Primary for Ron Paul - might be the only chance I get to vote for him. I'm assuming he's still technically on the ballot.

Yes, Ron Paul is still on the Ballot........

Quadratrückseite · Post by **Quadratrückseite** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 2:04 pm

I just found out he will be on the UNC campus this Friday speaking. I just went and got my free ticket!

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The Ron Paul Thread