Just in Case you Forgot about the Arrogance of the Wealthy

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Just in Case you Forgot about the Arrogance of the Wealthy

Post by Lanval » Sat Feb 08, 2014 10:04 pm

Here's a link to an article from 5 years ago in the NY Times. The thesis? Bankers can't afford to live on the proposed 500K p/year income Obama wanted to cap them at. Prepare your vomit bag first, then get your torches and pitchforks ready.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/08/fashi ... .html?_r=0

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Post by JLT » Sun Feb 09, 2014 10:56 am

Lanval wrote:Here's a link to an article from 5 years ago in the NY Times. The thesis? Bankers can't afford to live on the proposed 500K p/year income Obama wanted to cap them at. Prepare your vomit bag first, then get your torches and pitchforks ready.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/08/fashi ... .html?_r=0
So sad. And it didn't even include the upkeep and parking for the Rolls, the dock fees for the yacht, and the jewelry for the mistress. Or the tinting on the windows of the limousine to prevent them from seeing what the world really looks like outside their bubble.

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Post by Amskeptic » Tue Feb 11, 2014 10:08 pm

JLT wrote:
Lanval wrote:Here's a link to an article from 5 years ago in the NY Times. The thesis? Bankers can't afford to live on the proposed 500K p/year income Obama wanted to cap them at. Prepare your vomit bag first, then get your torches and pitchforks ready.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/08/fashi ... .html?_r=0
So sad. And it didn't even include the upkeep and parking for the Rolls, the dock fees for the yacht, and the jewelry for the mistress. Or the tinting on the windows of the limousine to prevent them from seeing what the world really looks like outside their bubble.

I knew I had that air-sick bag around here somewhere...

The rationalizations flow effortlessly, the comprehension of what life is really like for most Americans is almost entirely absent. There is no substitution for massive financial failure to open their eyes and hearts.
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Post by TrollFromDownBelow » Thu Feb 13, 2014 7:30 pm

At least they ran it in the life style section .... I read it as a bit tongue in cheek. I hope they meant it as tongue in cheek. Squeakin' by on $1.7M?
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Post by Amskeptic » Fri Feb 14, 2014 8:58 pm

TrollFromDownBelow wrote:At least they ran it in the life style section .... I read it as a bit tongue in cheek. I hope they meant it as tongue in cheek. Squeakin' by on $1.7M?
Considered that . . . tongue in cheek, but the Life Style section has always been about bragging up the 1%, I think it really was for "sympathy".
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Post by Spezialist » Sat Mar 01, 2014 2:04 pm

Did you ever hear the one about how the plumber that lost his entire life savings because the banker couldn't afford an armed driver?
Yeah, it's a sad story. Seems Joe banker who hung out with all the regular other joes at the local burger joint.
Well one day he was kidnapped and tortured, his wife was raped and killed, his son was tortured and killed, his daughter was only raped.
Finally joe banker agreed to the wire transfer to another offshore account from his managed bank from some anonymous accounts.
They still ended up killing him and his daughter, couldn't afford witness.
Such an arogant bastard.

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Post by Amskeptic » Mon Mar 03, 2014 2:10 pm

Spezialist wrote:Did you ever hear the one about how the plumber that lost his entire life savings because the banker couldn't afford an armed driver?
Yeah, it's a sad story. Seems Joe banker who hung out with all the regular other joes at the local burger joint.
Well one day he was kidnapped and tortured, his wife was raped and killed, his son was tortured and killed, his daughter was only raped.
Finally joe banker agreed to the wire transfer to another offshore account from his managed bank from some anonymous accounts.
They still ended up killing him and his daughter, couldn't afford witness.
Such an arogant bastard.
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Post by Jivermo » Mon Mar 03, 2014 2:41 pm

Good question. I read it three times, and then threw in the towel...

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Post by Amskeptic » Mon Mar 03, 2014 5:33 pm

Jivermo wrote:Good question. I read it three times, and then threw in the towel...
I am going to guess that the banker helped to "support" the plumber, and when the banker died, the plumber went broke, so hug your banker today??????

I mean, the banker went broke trying to pay the plumber, so he let go the armed driver?

Specious and flawed logic.
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Post by hippiewannabe » Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:33 pm

Jivermo wrote: I read it.......
That's where you went wrong.
Truth is like poetry.
And most people fucking hate poetry.

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Post by Spezialist » Thu Mar 06, 2014 8:56 pm

Yep, the Internet is populated with flatlanders.

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Post by hippiewannabe » Thu Mar 06, 2014 9:51 pm

Spezialist wrote:Yep, the Internet is populated with flatlanders.
Yeah, yeah, the banker took the plumber's money to pay off the kidnappers. Very ironic. :sleepy2:

Just because you obscure your point behind layers of bullshit doesn't make it any more valid or entertaining.
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Post by JLT » Sun Mar 09, 2014 6:33 pm

Spezialist wrote:Did you ever hear the one about how the plumber that lost his entire life savings because the banker couldn't afford an armed driver?.
No, but I heard about the capitalist, the Tea Party guy, and the union guy who sat down at a table where there was a box of a dozen donuts.

The capitalist takes eleven of the donuts and then whispers to the Tea Party guy "I think that union guy is gonna take your donut."
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Post by Amskeptic » Mon Mar 10, 2014 4:15 pm

JLT wrote:
Spezialist wrote:Did you ever hear the one about how the plumber that lost his entire life savings because the banker couldn't afford an armed driver?.
No, but I heard about the capitalist, the Tea Party guy, and the union guy who sat down at a table where there was a box of a dozen donuts.

The capitalist takes eleven of the donuts and then whispers to the Tea Party guy "I think that union guy is gonna take your donut."
Right on.

Take the Krispy Koch Brothers, for example, please:
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The company with the largest number of awards is Dow Chemical, with 416. Following it are Berkshire Hathaway (310), General Motors (307), Wal-Mart Stores (261), General Electric (255), Walgreen (225) and FedEx (222). Forty eight companies have received more than 100 individual awards.
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Post by Amskeptic » Wed Mar 12, 2014 8:38 am

NEW YORK (CNNMoney)
Bankers on Wall Street are bringing home their biggest bonuses since before the 2008 financial crisis.
The average bonus per employee in New York City's financial services industry grew by 15% to over $164,000 last year, according to a report from New York State Comptroller Thomas DiNapoli released Wednesday.

Of course, many rainmakers in the business do bring home millions of dollars a year, the bonus pool also includes employees such as secretaries and back office staff that make far less in annual salaries.
But the total bonus pool, which came to $26.7 billion, is the largest since 2007, DiNapoli said. It includes 2013 cash bonuses as well as deferred compensation from prior years.

Wall Street has roared back since the depths of the financial crisis. Shares of Goldman Sachs (GS, Fortune 500), Morgan Stanley (MS, Fortune 500), Bank of America (BAC, Fortune 500), Citigroup (C, Fortune 500) and JPMorgan Chase (JPM, Fortune 500) are well above the lows they hit in March 2009.
But the business has changed. Regulatory reforms since then have led to the shuttering of many once-lucrative trading desks at the big firms.

And banks are still cutting back on the number of workers on their payrolls. DiNapoli said there were 165,000 employees on Wall Street as of December 2013, nearly 13% less than before the market's meltdown, "but before you take out your pitchforks to go occupy Wall Street, it's important to note the tax revenue the sector generates for the city and state of New York."

DiNapoli estimated that New York City collected $3.8 billion in taxes last year from activities directly related to the industry, a 27% bump from the previous year. That was 8.5% of the city's total tax collection.

At the state level, the windfall is even greater: New York took in $10.3 billion from the financial industry last year, or 16% of all state tax revenue. However, that figure is still down from before the recession, when New York relied on Wall Street for 20% of its tax revenue.
Folks, look at us. We are stunned. We are dumbfounded. We are passive in the face of the very thing that is destroying our futures right out from under us. We, you, I, all of us, know that the money game has infected the very people (our representatives) who presumably serve our national interests. We, you, I, know that they cannot extricate themselves from this cocaine party of cash. We have to do it. Read your history books. You find that in our history, people have *had* to take to the streets over and over again to rouse our representatives and the captains of industry from the stupor of greed, they will not willingly do it themselves.
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BobD - 78 Bus . . . 112,730 miles
Chloe - 70 bus . . . 217,593 miles
Naranja - 77 Westy . . . 142,970 miles
Pluck - 1973 Squareback . . . . . . 55,600 miles
Alexus - 91 Lexus LS400 . . . 96,675 miles

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