Gary Johnson

[BellePlaine]

If we can’t have Ron Paul, what about Gary Johnson?

http://reason.com/archives/2012/07/24/w ... nson-in-th

[dingo]

yeah he could be dropped from a B-52 and skydive backwards into the White House....

[BellePlaine]

I understand that he's quite the adventurist. He even summited Mt. Everest and ran 100 miles over 30 hours in the Rockies.

[vdubzen]

he was a pretty good governor.

[fred]

he has a radio show on the logos radio network if you're interested in hearing some of his views. he'll get my hackable computer blip this year (vote)

[BellePlaine]

http://bleedingheartlibertarians.com/20 ... ce=twitter

[BellePlaine]

http://communities.washingtontimes.com/ ... y-johnson/

I don't really have much to add to any of this other than a wish that third party candidates got more media attention then they do. This guy is talking about some fairly common sense policies of peace, giving power back to the people, and not spending more than you earn which I guess makes him boring, or scary, I don't know. Without a guy like this in the debates, the major party candidates are going to scream and yell just the same old talking points that we've already heard. Johnson would give us a fresh perspective that I think would be good to hear.

[BellePlaine]

http://www.policymic.com/articles/15523 ... -televised

Gary Johnson 2012 The Libertarian Revolution Will Not Be Televised

“The revolution will not be televised.”

This phrase accurately describes the libertarian movement, as it continues to penetrate the American psyche in the forms of Ron Paul and Gary Johnson. Every day, a growing segment of the population, which is young, educated, and internet native, joins the ranks of the libertarians and their allies. And every day, the regime which currently controls the United States — those inner party officials, media mouthpieces, and corporate backers — continue to lose legitimacy, support, and ultimately, control. Over the next few years, these elements will become increasingly impotent, as they lose the ideological and technological race for supremacy against a new generation of Americans who are not dependent upon systems controlled by the corporatist state.

First, the party duopoly has begun to experience trouble in the recruitment of loyal party followers. Mainstream Republicans are unable to replenish their ranks due to an overall shift in demographics, as well as their open hostility towards actual small government activists who seek involvement in the party. Democrats, while being considerably more successful than Republicans, have shown themselves to be increasingly desperate in their tactics. They have chosen to follow an Orwellian model, perpetuating a Keynesian economic cycle of poverty and dependence which, in return, makes the population more susceptible to racial, sexual, and class-based bribery. Relying on either a small aristocracy or the impoverished masses will result in failure for the parties, as the middle class – that class of tradesmen, managers, and entrepreneurs who have served as the agitators and revolutionaries of centuries past – has become aware of the movement which truly represents their socially liberal, fiscally sane views.

Second, the major media outlets are no longer trusted by the bulk of Americans, as their partisanship and willingness to obfuscate any inconvenient facts have obliterated any sense of credibility they may have once possessed. Just as Nazi propagandists assured their population that Germany was on the verge of total victory, even as Soviet soldiers flooded the Reichstag, American media has become equally divorced from reality, even going so far as to state that the Great Recession has been “over” since 2009. But these media giants cannot force Americans to ignore the rising prices, persistent joblessness, and the conflicting narrative between “the economy is fine” and “we need stimulus to fix the economy.” Nor can they black out the existence of the libertarian movement, which finally broke through in Ron Paul’s 2008 campaign with the help of the internet. Today, libertarians continue to attract increased attention, as Libertarian presidential nominee, Gary Johnson, sues both the FEC and CPD for illegally blocking opposition parties from receiving their due campaign funds, and participating in debates. Should he succeed in landing a spot in the debates, the collapse of the duopoly will be significantly hastened, as the “lesser of two evils” myth is dispelled, and a good option becomes visible.

The current government and its puppet industries cannot halt the rising libertarian tide. A parasitical system, the mixed government-corporate structure breeds inefficiency and contempt just as it begins to accumulate wealth and power. It will exhaust its own population, lose its trust, and become dependent exclusively on the crude violence of intimidation and taxation. But by that point, it will have lost. Without a means of competing with individuals in the private sector, without a means of controlling the flow of information and ideas, the regime will simply be swept away as a useless relic. But these changes will never be broadcasted on the major networks. The revolution will not be televised.

[Amskeptic]

Gary Johnson 2012 The Libertarian Revolution Will Not Be Televised

A) Mainstream Republicans are unable to replenish their ranks due to an overall shift in demographics, as well as their open hostility towards actual small government activists who seek involvement in the party.

B) Democrats have shown themselves to be increasingly desperate in their tactics. They have chosen to follow an Orwellian model, perpetuating a Keynesian economic cycle of poverty and dependence which, in return, makes the population more susceptible to racial, sexual, and class-based bribery.

C) the major media outlets are no longer trusted by the bulk of Americans, as their partisanship and willingness to obfuscate any inconvenient facts have obliterated any sense of credibility they may have once possessed.

D) Just as Nazi propagandists assured their population that Germany was on the verge of total victory, even as Soviet soldiers flooded the Reichstag, American media has become equally divorced from reality, even going so far as to state that the Great Recession has been “over” since 2009.

Belle Plaine,
I gave it a read, but the sweeping generalizations and hysteria-tinged unsupported conclusions just turn me off.

A) Republicans are unable to replenish their ranks because they have radicalized themselves out of the mainstream. "open hostility towards actual small government activists" ??? Nah, sorry.

B) Democrats "increasingly desperate in their (Orwellian) tactics, perpetuating a Keynesian economic cycle of poverty and dependence which, in return, makes the population more susceptible to racial, sexual, and class-based bribery" Please. This is collapsing in its own lunacy. It is not bribery to support women's issues. It is not bribery to ask the rich to pay their fair share. And racial bribery? Where are your examples, Gary?

C) The media's "willingness to obfuscate any inconvenient facts", again examples? The media appears to have corporate masters and a shallow tendency to chase ratings, sure, but obfuscation is a more focused agenda-based motivation that needs an example.

D) Bringing up the Nazi propaganda machine to illustrate media's divorce from reality when *in fact*, by the actual economic definition of recession, our economic output did indeed rise above "recession" in July of 2009. That the American people have not seen any benefit of this recession's end is a whole nuther topic, but you, Mr. Johnson, have already marginalized yourself right out of that discussion.
Colin

[BellePlaine]

A) I don’t know, the libertarian movement is growing, especially among college-aged citizens. The Republican Party and the RNC committee really disenfranchised Libertarian leaning Republicans by changing their own party’s rules for nomination. Forget the shenanigans in Maine and in other states, Ron Paul was eligible for nomination until the rules were changed at the Midnight hour. What’s the point if the convention is just a coronation? Remember the Iowa primary? That’s the open hostility the writer is speaking of.

B) Biden says to Democratic supporters that the Republicans are going to put them back in chains and that’s not racial/class-based bribery?

C) The media's "willingness to obfuscate any inconvenient facts"? Again I give you the Iowa Primary, as an example.

D) I agree with you that the Nazi propaganda example was a little silly but the writer’s point is still valid; conventional media simply ignores any viable candidate other than the duopoly. The media has made a soap-opera of politics. It’s money/ratings/influence to them when in reality good politics ought to be boring to watch.

[BellePlaine]

If nothing else, I can appreciate the spirit of the underdog. A party with 1% of the popular vote fighting a system entrenched its own self-centered power. If nothing else, it’s a good story.

Friends,

The first words I must say to you are THANK YOU.

We made history Tuesday. Thanks to you and thousands of other supporters of real liberty, my running mate, Judge Jim Gray, and I received more votes than any other Libertarian candidates for President and Vice-President in history. Even with the closeness of the contest between Mitt Romney and Barack Obama, when all the votes are counted, we will most likely have received 1.2 million votes!

That’s 1.2 million Americans who heard us and voted on the basis of principle over politics. And they did so despite the fact that Romney and Obama spent at least a thousand times more on TV and radio advertising than we did.

Given the outcome Tuesday, which returned the status quo to not only the White House, but also the Congress, we even have supporters already talking proudly of being part of the new “1%” who refused to accept that status quo.

Even more important than Tuesday’s results, with your support, we have built a grassroots organization nationwide that is truly the foundation for carrying our message of individual freedom, small government and non-intervention forward in a big way. Tuesday was not the end. It is the beginning.

We have identified hundreds of thousands of liberty–minded Americans. We have connected with more than a million people on Google+, 300,000 fans on Facebook, and more than 100,000 followers on Twitter. And over the past few days–before and after Tuesday, “Who is Gary Johnson?” was one of the most “searched” phrases on the Internet.

NONE of that has happened without your help. Your time, your energy, and your contributions have placed Liberty squarely on the national stage, and with all signs pointing to a continuation of big government, small liberty policies in Washington DC, the NEED for Liberty to be on that stage will never be greater than in the months ahead.

I am taking a couple of days to recharge my batteries in New Mexico and, frankly, attend to some chores at home — and then I will be picking up the bullhorn again. We already have major national interviews scheduled for next week, and fully intend to use the foundation we have built to make sure we are heard in the critical policy debates that are already raging in the wake of Tuesday’s election.

The “fiscal cliff”, Internet regulation, and of course, events in the Middle East are all going to be dealt with in the weeks ahead – by the status quo government that was reelected Tuesday. It is critical that we not sit on the sidelines.

To make sure we ARE heard going forward, there is much we need to do. We have to pay the final bills for all the work we did leading up to the election. We have a tremendous amount of data collection and list organization to do. We need to update our website and social media pages. And of course, I will be traveling the country to give voice to Liberty. All those tasks, and many more, require funding.

I really want you to be a part of what we will be doing over the next few weeks, and I hope you will go to GaryJohnson2012.com and help make sure we have the funding we need. What we have accomplished with the amount of money we have spent – compared to the so-called “major” party candidates – is nothing short of remarkable. And we are committed to carrying this work forward until the status quo strangle-hold is broken.

Tuesday’s election created a great opportunity for us. Being part of the “1%” that didn’t settle for the lesser of evils or the renewal of the status quo is soon to be a badge we can wear with pride, and more importantly, the foundation for a movement that America desperately needs.

You’ve been with me this far, and I sincerely hope I have earned your support as we look ahead. We have a lot of work to do, and I need your help.

Please go to GaryJohnson2012.com today and make the contribution that will let us take advantage of the amazing opportunities we have created!

Words cannot capture my gratitude for all you have done, for your friendship, and for your dedication to a cause that is REALLY important. We have an exciting future – so let’s get to it!

Sincerely,

Gov. Gary Johnson

[Bleyseng]

Gary Johnson 2012 The Libertarian Revolution Will Not Be Televised

A) Mainstream Republicans are unable to replenish their ranks due to an overall shift in demographics, as well as their open hostility towards actual small government activists who seek involvement in the party.

B) Democrats have shown themselves to be increasingly desperate in their tactics. They have chosen to follow an Orwellian model, perpetuating a Keynesian economic cycle of poverty and dependence which, in return, makes the population more susceptible to racial, sexual, and class-based bribery.

C) the major media outlets are no longer trusted by the bulk of Americans, as their partisanship and willingness to obfuscate any inconvenient facts have obliterated any sense of credibility they may have once possessed.

D) Just as Nazi propagandists assured their population that Germany was on the verge of total victory, even as Soviet soldiers flooded the Reichstag, American media has become equally divorced from reality, even going so far as to state that the Great Recession has been “over” since 2009.

Belle Plaine,
I gave it a read, but the sweeping generalizations and hysteria-tinged unsupported conclusions just turn me off.

A) Republicans are unable to replenish their ranks because they have radicalized themselves out of the mainstream. "open hostility towards actual small government activists" ??? Nah, sorry.

B) Democrats "increasingly desperate in their (Orwellian) tactics, perpetuating a Keynesian economic cycle of poverty and dependence which, in return, makes the population more susceptible to racial, sexual, and class-based bribery" Please. This is collapsing in its own lunacy. It is not bribery to support women's issues. It is not bribery to ask the rich to pay their fair share. And racial bribery? Where are your examples, Gary?

C) The media's "willingness to obfuscate any inconvenient facts", again examples? The media appears to have corporate masters and a shallow tendency to chase ratings, sure, but obfuscation is a more focused agenda-based motivation that needs an example.

D) Bringing up the Nazi propaganda machine to illustrate media's divorce from reality when *in fact*, by the actual economic definition of recession, our economic output did indeed rise above "recession" in July of 2009. That the American people have not seen any benefit of this recession's end is a whole nuther topic, but you, Mr. Johnson, have already marginalized yourself right out of that discussion.
Colin

I agree with Colin, I just don't get Gary Johnson's blather as it reads just like some Tea Party horsesh*t.

[BellePlaine]

I think that I’m barking up the wrong tree posting this stuff here. I’ll let this thread slowly sink in the abyss of ideas that aren’t considered valuable to the IAC.

[yondermtn]

I think that I’m barking up the wrong tree posting this stuff here. I’ll let this thread slowly sink in the abyss of ideas that aren’t considered valuable to the IAC.

I like reading your stuff. fwiw.

[Bleyseng]

I would like to see a third party in the USA but 1 million votes is peanuts. I haven't considered Gary Johnson yet but maybe if he presents his plans and platform better I would consider it. Problem is I am more of a socialist and view federal government as the solution to a lot of our problems as a country.
I read today that the Ohio legislature is going to de fund Planned Parenthood and Texas is seceding....Wow, such interesting news. I also read that Spain has 25% unemployment now and we are crying at 7.8% unemployment! No wonder they are having general strikes by the unions.