Warming Not Cooling <8-O

[Gypsie]

The scientific authority has it at 391 ppm right now. So, lets say 390 out of 1,000,000. That is .00039, let's round it to .0004, which is .04% The IPCC says in its assessment, humans' CO2 is just around 5% of all that atmospheric CO2. So, 5%, or .05, of .04%, or .0004 equals .00002. Which is 2/100,000 of 1 percent. Okay?

I am glad it wasn't really that high. I was getting nervous. Thank you for clarifying.

Graphs like these are hard to reconcile as they compress the years into easily viewed images.

Suffice it to say that I wonder what kind of life is sustainable in the eras where the average temp is so much higher.

Will wheat grow? corn? beans? What kind of plants will grow. What kind of animals?

Average temps don't show the extremes. How high will the summer temps be? How low the winters?
If believable, it appears that CO2 hasn't been above 300ppm for the past 400 thousand years.

I really don't know what the answers are but it really does concern me that the earth as we know it, the earth (and it's biosphere) that birthed the life forms that we know, is showing a rapid change in it's make up

If we continue the trend of CO2 increases, how long will it take to increase the temps to a point of imbalance? Evolution takes time and speeding up the process can't be helpful.

Curiouser and curiouser.

[turk]

Here's another thing, in my opinion there's nothing humans can do that the earth hasn't already done a zillion times better! But seriously, we are deluded to think the sky is gonna fall because of us. I like the Carlin bit about the people who claim to care about the environment: They don't care. They're more concerned with their habitat and keeping it clean and convenient for them. Unenlightened self-interest. That's all it is when you strip away the self-important concern for the earth. The earth is fine. Of course pollution and all that is bad and we can reduce ours, and we will. The continents were different 65 million years ago. There were no Himalayas. The Atlantic was much smaller. Things change on Planet Earth!

[grandfatherjim]

I don't think the earth ever detonated its own nuclear bomb.

[turk]

Just volcanos more powerful than any nuclear weapon.

[ruckman101]

Wild oysters are becoming extinct.


neal

[hambone]

Wi-hi-hi-ooilllld oysterrssss
couldn't drag me ah-wayyyyyyyyy

[ruckman101]

Tasty little stomachs. The highlight of my San Juan sailing trip was collecting up a dinner of wild oysters on the beach of Stuart Island. Dusted in crumbled saltine crackers and pan-fried in butter with chopped wild onion. Amazing the life crawling all over a beach when it isn't overrun with people poking at things with sticks.


neal

[Amskeptic]

Just volcanos more powerful than any nuclear weapon.

Oh please.

What volcano is so rude as to spring totally unannounced in a city and melt people's eyeballs and damage their DNA for generations?
Listen to Hiroshima and Nagasaki survivors . . . there is a gulf of a difference between a natural and man made disaster.

Yes, we should be humble in the presence of nature and Earth dynamics and still show some respect by not being too arrogant as to dismiss our contributions to the despoiling and imbalancing of our habitat. If we can dig up archeological detrius from thousands of years ago, what do you suppose is happening with our dumps and chemical brown fields and Texas-sized floating plastic trash on the Pacific?
Colin

[turk]

Wow how the topic meanders. Big rivers meander. Rivers are the oldest geographic features of land forms. See the Colorado. Your damned right Volcanos erupt without warning. Mt. Vesuvius.

[ruckman101]

What is the half-life of ash and lava?


neal

[Elwood]

Wi-hi-hi-ooilllld oysterrssss
couldn't drag me ah-wayyyyyyyyy

Now that is just "Way Funny" along with neal telling of people poking things with a stick.

Thanks for the giggle from my cyber friends.

Barb

[ruckman101]

"Weighing in at 1,250 pounds (567 kilograms), Marina Wilson’s champion steer Grandview Rebel is ready for auction at a county fair in Maryland. Raising this steer has taken an agricultural investment equal to 283 gallons (1,071 liters) of oil, represented here by the red drums. That includes everything from fertilizers on cornfields to the diesel that runs machinery on the farm. Overall, it takes three-quarters of a gallon of oil to produce a pound of beef."


neal

[turk]

So, from the horse's mouth, (maybe there is hope for impartial science in public funded bureaucracies): http://www.climatewatch.noaa.gov/2010/a ... ows/all/1/

[deschutestrout]

What's the 'lil paper clip lookin' thingy on the thread title in the forum? Just curious...haven't seen it before.

[Amskeptic]

What's the 'lil paper clip lookin' thingy on the thread title in the forum? Just curious...haven't seen it before.

Something about a lot of attachments.
ColinYourAdministrator?